Catholic Traditional Parade in Malta Children pulls a new Priest in Porshe boxter thru town VID

It's their village they can do what they want but in todays global era and the recent fiasco with Priest abusing children id say poor taste that Priest & parishoners should have known better But it was all fun & games a real festival!!

It perpetuates the authority of the Parish Priest and in turn the Roman Catholic Church........

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Fr John Sultana, who this week was named the new parish priest for Gozitan community, Malta, was honored with a traditional parade by local followers.
A newly appointed parish priest is being accused of using his stature to put on a “ostentatious” public display, during which children were seen pulling a Porsche through the streets of a Maltese town with the clergyman inside.

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Isn't this an over-reaction? Every July 4th my local town ferries dignitaries around in fancy cars. The cars do not belong to the people paraded. They are solicited by the parade officials. Usually they are pulled from the car show that accompanies the celebration. Everyone gets to see some cool cars. The homecoming queens and politicians wave to the crowd and throw candy. End of story. Besides, it's just a cheap Porsche, a Boxster, no less. Not like it was a Ferrari.

originally posted by: schuyler
Isn't this an over-reaction? Every July 4th my local town ferries dignitaries around in fancy cars. The cars do not belong to the people paraded. They are solicited by the parade officials. Usually they are pulled from the car show that accompanies the celebration. Everyone gets to see some cool cars. The homecoming queens and politicians wave to the crowd and throw candy. End of story. Besides, it's just a cheap Porsche, a Boxster, no less. Not like it was a Ferrari.

The problem is not the car, its the fact they have children pulling the car down the streets.

You cant get a chariot rental in Malta I guess

The kids had clothes on, so what's the problem?

Also, that's much more environmentally friendly than running the engine.

Being this is a "traditional" Practice don't you see the psychology behind it perpetuating an absolute authority over the residents & their children An authority that has been abused and institutionalized on numerous occasions ?

This traditional practice IS the prime example of that power that was abused . The mere act of subjecting your own children to pull thousands of pounds of a luxury car and a single Holy Man Standing Proud inside?? Where's Humility??

The Lord Jesus rode in on a donkey... young children didn't pull him along in a cart.



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a reply to: TheJesuit

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originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: schuyler
Isn't this an over-reaction? Every July 4th my local town ferries dignitaries around in fancy cars. The cars do not belong to the people paraded. They are solicited by the parade officials. Usually they are pulled from the car show that accompanies the celebration. Everyone gets to see some cool cars. The homecoming queens and politicians wave to the crowd and throw candy. End of story. Besides, it's just a cheap Porsche, a Boxster, no less. Not like it was a Ferrari.

The problem is not the car, its the fact they have children pulling the car down the streets.

That title looks bad too....whatever it says.


ARA: Tfal jiġbdu l-Arċipriet il-ġdid biex jieħu l-pussess fiż-Żebbuġ

Only semi-traditional. The original tradition would have been a crowd of people pulling along a horse-drawn vehicle in place of the horse. I've seen old accounts of that kind of thing. It doesn't make so much sense when the vehicle has an in-built motor.

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: schuyler
Isn't this an over-reaction? Every July 4th my local town ferries dignitaries around in fancy cars. The cars do not belong to the people paraded. They are solicited by the parade officials. Usually they are pulled from the car show that accompanies the celebration. Everyone gets to see some cool cars. The homecoming queens and politicians wave to the crowd and throw candy. End of story. Besides, it's just a cheap Porsche, a Boxster, no less. Not like it was a Ferrari.

The problem is not the car, its the fact they have children pulling the car down the streets.

Really? 50 kids pulling a car? I don't see that as a problem. If someone drove the car people would be complaining about pollution.

a reply to: TheJesuit

Look I also do not like this but before anyone get's into turning this into a Let's Beat Up on the Catholic's thread let's get some thing's right first shall we.

Abuse is a pandemic problem in all part's of society today.
Recently we had a police officer over here in the UK whom was described as having joined the police in order to get the key's to the sweet shop so to speak and whom raped a 13 year old child.
uk.glbnews.com...
www.warringtonguardian.co.uk...

All positions of power and trust ATTRACT those that would abuse them for there own purposes, in this case child abusers.
That includes politician's, police, social workers and priests of ALL faith's.

Now were child abusers are concerned however they have there own community often sharing sickening images online and abusing as a group with even captive children some even sharing there own children around - this is simply a matter of fact they are definitely a danger to society and to the most vulnerable among us.

Such a group OBVIOUSLY formed within the Catholic Church, also within the Mormon Church and also within the Anglican church, they also exist among the Hindu's, Muhammadan's and Protestant's 'BUT' they are NOT those church's, religion's or cult's rather they are operating within them for there own benefit.

Genuine Priests do exist, men - AND woman whom felt the call to serve God often from a young age and sometime's in later life.

As a Christian I feel confident and faithful that those that abuse this for such perversion's WILL face the Lord's own wrath.

The Church itself is not Guilty however some college's of Cardinal's etc ARE very much Guilty and the Hierarchy of these faith's almost without exception have been polluted by these devil wolves in sheep's clothing.

The Church be that Catholic or even Mormon is actually NOT it's Priests, Pastor's, Bishop's or what have you but rather it is the people whom make up the Congregation of that Church, the multitudes among whom Christ walk's at every service were they are gathered in HIS name, the small family meat's were bread is broken and wine poured usually by the father of the family for his family and any guests in memory of Christ before there meal to give thank's.

It is not the fake priests, pastor's, bishop's, rabbi's, Imam's etc that are in it for there own perversion's to gain a place from which they can enact them upon there victim's, I repeat the it is NOT them men it is the very people they are abusing that are the Church, Christ is a victim AGAIN in each victim of this abuse and it is Christ himself they are raping and abusing.

originally posted by: schuyler
Isn't this an over-reaction? Every July 4th my local town ferries dignitaries around in fancy cars. The cars do not belong to the people paraded. They are solicited by the parade officials. Usually they are pulled from the car show that accompanies the celebration. Everyone gets to see some cool cars. The homecoming queens and politicians wave to the crowd and throw candy. End of story. Besides, it's just a cheap Porsche, a Boxster, no less. Not like it was a Ferrari.

Yeah but it does kind of look like a line up for selection of the towns tastiest morsels.
Considering the growing reputation of the CChurch maybe it should have included all townspeople not just kids.

a reply to: TheJesuit

Of course I see the psychology behind it, it has been the practice of all authoritarian religions throughout history. Maybe not these specifics but still, the same kind of control systems. Just as you point out. Just as all critics of Catholicism point out and have pointed out for centuries. There is no conspiracy there any longer.

As for Lord Jesus riding on a donkey, he also liked having his feet washed. And when someone criticized the woman washing his feet he told them to butt out because she was serving the Lord. So why not look at these children pulling this chariot with Jesus's representative around. I see no difference as far as the devotion to the faith.

Just leaving the criticism at the Catholic Church does not expand into the nature of all of the Christian faith, and as well the whole religious dogma of all religions.

If you want to talk about the pride of that priest, standing tall in that car, how about we talk about the pride of Trump as he proclaims that he is the smartest. The best. That he is the only one that can save America. All that BS about how great he thinks he is. If you want to see the falseness of that priest, how about all the falseness of Trump? Seems to come from the same overly infatuated love of self in both cases to me. How about you

a reply to: TheJesuit

How is towing a car a sexual act?

You seem to have lost sight of what the crime was, and to have applied your offense at the crime, to innocuous activities, by association.

The parade (or whatever) has nothing to do with the commission of a crime.

originally posted by: TheJesuit
Being this is a "traditional" Practice don't you see the psychology behind it perpetuating an absolute authority over the residents & their children... ?

No.

This traditional practice IS the prime example of that power that was abused . The mere act of subjecting your own children to pull thousands of pounds of a luxury car and a single Holy Man Standing Proud inside?? Where's Humility??

Personally, I can't see the point of the parade (it's pretty stupid to replace a cart with a self propelled vehicle), but it clearly isn't the sexual abuse of children, nor is it telling the attendees about the social pecking order.

Traditionally, they brought merchandise to the market on carts. They didn't deliver dignitaries on carts.

The Lord Jesus rode in on a donkey... young children didn't pull him along in a cart.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Jesus didn't ride in a Porshe, carry an umbrella, submit a thesis paper on nano-tech metamaterials, or microwave up a quick snack, either. There's lots of things Jesus didn't do.

Your point was?

a reply to: LABTECH767
How do we know who is true to Christs words
Call no man Father, Do not make yourself special by clothing to stand out or use prayer for show Jesus followers will suffer.
Matthew 23:9
And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
Dress and behavior now special robes no gold jewelry.
Luke 11:37-54)
8 But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth your father, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Christ. 11 The greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
Mark 12:38
As he taught, Jesus said, "Watch out for the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and be greeted with respect in the marketplaces,
Jesus also taught: "Beware of these teachers of religious law! For they like to parade around in flowing robes and receive respectful greetings as they walk in the marketplaces.
Matthew 23:7
the greetings in the marketplaces, and the title of 'Rabbi' by which they are addressed.
Mark 12:39
and to have the chief seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets.
so that she forgot Me," declares the LORD.
1 Peter 3:3
Your adornment must not be merely external--braiding the hair, and wearing gold jewelry, or putting on dresses;
The rosary and pay candle prayers, praying for show repetitive prayers:
Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions,
as the heathen do: for they think that they
shall be heard for their much speaking.
Matthew 6:6
But you, when you pray, enter into your inner
chamber, and having shut your door, pray to
your Father who is in secret, and your Father
who sees in secret will reward you openly.
A true teacher will not have more than what he needs to eat and live simply
2 Thessalonians
For you yourselves know how you ought to imitate us, because we were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with toil and labor we worked night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you. It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate. For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
Does the Vatican store riches?
Treasures in Heaven
Matthew 6:19-21
19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Fruits are the works of the organization
Matthew 7:15-20 New King James Version (NKJV)
You Will Know Them by Their Fruits
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
Romans 13:14
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires
Tradition of Men
Mark 7:7-9N
n vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.” And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
Mathew 23
3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy, burdensome loads and lay them on men’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. 5All their deeds are done for men to see. They broaden their phylacteries and lengthen their tassels.…
Matthew 6:1-34
“Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. ..
Colossians 2
20 Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21 “Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22 These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23 Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence
1 Timothy 4:1-3 New International Version (NIV)
4 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
bible.knowing-jesus.com...
1 John 5:21
Little children, guard yourselves from idols.
1 Thessalonians 1:9
For they themselves report about us what kind of a reception we had with you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God,
Leviticus 26:1
'You shall not make for yourselves idols, nor shall you set up for yourselves an image or a sacred pillar, nor shall you place a figured stone in your land to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God.
We know for certain that Peter was married because he had a mother-in-law (Matthew 8:14). The apostle Paul, who was not married, asked the Corinthians whether he also did not have the right to take a believing wife (1 Corinthians 9:5), as did “the other apostles and the Lord's brothers and Cephas [Peter].” From this, we can assume that Peter was not the only one to have a wife.www.gotquestions.org...
The fruit of the Catholic church
Calling Men Father
Hoarding
Illegal money making and banking
Witch burning murders of anyone opposed to teachings
Large incomes and luxuarious goods and buildings called a church when the PEPLE are the church not the building.
Dressing in special fancy robes jewlery
Receiving money to pray to marry to bury People
Making a show of giving
Teach the praying to others beside the creator www.gotquestions.org...
Idols
Forbidding Marr

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I can NOT fault your point.
Jesus also said
if you have two coat's and your brother has non give unto him the one you are not using.
Go sell all you own and come follow me.
The son of man has no place to lay his head.

So in FACT Jesus is the one whom laid the true ground plan for a very real socialism but one that the so called socialists and communists of this world have been both unable to copy and indeed corrupted to there own agenda's often denying Jesus since to acknowledge him would have prevented them seeking some of there less godly goal's and as for the Capitalists both inside and outside of the corrupt hierarchy's of this world well what did Jesus do to the money changers whom he found in the temple abusing it for there own profit.

There is also the tale of Ananias and Sapphira
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Being part of the body of christ and members of an early Christian commune - which is what the churches functioned like and more like the later Kibbutz of early modern Israel they were supposed to give all they had earned from selling there possession's into the common purse were it could be shared out among the followers of the way as it was needed - so that the sick could be cared for and the well whom worked would also give all they earned into that common purse living as one body, clothed as they had need, sheltered as they had need and fed so that non was hungry.

So remember also what Jesus said to the mob whom were about to stone the woman.
He walked before them and picked up a stone himself facing them then said.
"Let he that is 'without' Sin cast the first stone", his voice of course carried authority and they felt shame for non of them was without sin so they dropped there stone's and walked away and he said "Then neither shall I" and dropped his own stone - but the meaning is clear.
Also he said.
For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye

So it is very good that you know this and I too believe our true father is only the Lord - ESPECIALLY if we be of the body of Christ, I have personal reason's for calling no man on earth my father as well so that is actually a beloved verse to myself.

I have yet to see a modern Christian church that is not simply corrupting it for cult reason's that actually lives by the word of the Lord and just as they were persecuted in ancient Rome so too would they be in today's world.
This led to them creating many house church's and hiding there community among there enemy's so that early Christianity was a very secretive society in many places.
As it stand's I do have a great love for some catholic saint's, many orthodox saint's and all martyrs whom died for our Lord such as the Coptic, Catholic and other Orthodox as well as other denomination's saint's beheaded by Isis whom refused to deny our Lord and died for his name sake.
Did they live perfectly by the rule's - they lived as best they could in the society's that they were born and they DIED for believing in our Lord which is far better than seeking self righteousness by poking the speck out of our brother's eye's now isn't it.
And I have no doubt they are with our Lord right now even as I type this.

originally posted by: schuyler
Isn't this an over-reaction? Every July 4th my local town ferries dignitaries around in fancy cars. The cars do not belong to the people paraded. They are solicited by the parade officials. Usually they are pulled from the car show that accompanies the celebration. Everyone gets to see some cool cars. The homecoming queens and politicians wave to the crowd and throw candy. End of story. Besides, it's just a cheap Porsche, a Boxster, no less. Not like it was a Ferrari.

The church is full of hypocrites, why should their leadership be any different.

Matthew 6:19 - 21 says...

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also."

Yup, that's one Priesthood off to a bad start...

It's not a Catholic tradition. It's an Atlantean tradition.