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Again, we have thrown hard punches at one another and will again, but IMO you made a case equal to or maybe even slightly better than the WH attorneys. Not to say you were correct (you weren't), but you made better logical arguments for the position the WH took than their attorneys did.
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: Guyfriday
originally posted by: shooterbrody
Looks like the judge has ruled for the pass to be restored.
www.cnn.com...
Kelly did not rule on the underlying case on Friday. But he granted CNN's request for a temporary restraining order.
legalinsurrection.com...
The Court appears to have ruled that Acosta’s First Amendment rights supercede the White House interest in orderly press conferences, and that Acosta was not given due process in the revocation process.
So Acosta is allowed a temp pass? He was allowed to have that anyway.
ATS would be better served if people didn't muddy waters with BS.
He was not given a temp pass. He did not have a temp pass. His hard pass was "restored" temporarily until the case is settled in court or the WH drops it (which is what I am predicting).
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: soberbacchus
So once acosta is given "due process" his pass can be revoked?
originally posted by: Guyfriday
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: Guyfriday
originally posted by: shooterbrody
Looks like the judge has ruled for the pass to be restored.
www.cnn.com...
Kelly did not rule on the underlying case on Friday. But he granted CNN's request for a temporary restraining order.
legalinsurrection.com...
The Court appears to have ruled that Acosta’s First Amendment rights supercede the White House interest in orderly press conferences, and that Acosta was not given due process in the revocation process.
So Acosta is allowed a temp pass? He was allowed to have that anyway.
ATS would be better served if people didn't muddy waters with BS.
He was not given a temp pass. He did not have a temp pass. His hard pass was "restored" temporarily until the case is settled in court or the WH drops it (which is what I am predicting).
Explain the difference between a temporary restored hard pass, and a soft pass that has to be renewed daily?
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: soberbacchus
Again, we have thrown hard punches at one another and will again, but IMO you made a case equal to or maybe even slightly better than the WH attorneys. Not to say you were correct (you weren't), but you made better logical arguments for the position the WH took than their attorneys did.
This portion was only for the temp injunction, there is still a long way to go.
As there is no transcript yet, what has been "reported" appears to be only the lack of "due process" saved acosta; a ruling which would be on firm ground for any legal proceeding.
Can anyone who has a pass now attend the briefing of their choice?
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: soberbacchus
So it will be no different than the outcome of the first suit in which the ss had to establish standards and notify those denied?
So this is still in no way an issue of the first amendment, but rather of acostas behavior and lack of paperwork notification of such from the whitehouse to acosta?
The ruling of lack of due process inherently acknowledges the revocation was a first amendment issue. The whole Privilege vs. Right Argument. No due process required for Privilege.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: soberbacchus
The ruling of lack of due process inherently acknowledges the revocation was a first amendment issue. The whole Privilege vs. Right Argument. No due process required for Privilege.
From what I have read, and with out an actual transcript it is hazy and slanted, had the white house given a better description of who, how, and why the due process may not have been an issue. It appears the judge was not happy with what was provided.
originally posted by: soberbacchus
You have a Judge chosen by the Federalist Society and appointed by Trump that is going to rule on an immediate temporary injunction in a few hours.
Watch what happens.
originally posted by: Arnie123
I'm watching your tears filling a Vat, what happened now?
originally posted by: Arnie123
Lol, you're so unhinged because you're losing the narrative and debate. Don't put all your eggs in one basket 😌
originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: soberbacchus
He ruled on due process. What else you need to know?
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: pteridine
Yeah, I would agree. ALL press conferences should cease immediately,
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: pteridine
I have a feeling those official standards are going to be damn tight after this,
There will be no standards because Trump is a man-baby-coward.