California Republicans Face More Losses as Late Votes for Democrats Continue to Trickle In

a reply to: BlackJackal

For some stupid reason.

What would make you, BlackJackal, refuse to obey the law and allow inspection even after getting an order from a judge that says, "You, BlackJackal, are in.violation of the law. You must conform to the law by 9 Nov 2018, 1900hrs"? Under what circumstances would you personally say, "# that judge and the law. I'd rather be in contempt and violate the law than allow inspection"?

Can you name one plausible scenario other than fraud? You'll be the first.

a reply to: BlackJackal

Judges never say something didn't occur. Judges say things like insufficient evidence to rule such and such occurred. So impeach that judge if she said that.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jjkenobi

If that were happening.....

They broke the laws, in florida at least, that is proven.

Please explain the laws they broke -- with links.

Have charges been filed?

ALL votes need to be counted.

If it's about a deadline to stop vote counts -- there's something wrong with that.

It is about potential ballot stuffing, from someone that destroyed ballots of a previous election to prevent a recount.

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jjkenobi

If that were happening.....

They broke the laws, in florida at least, that is proven.

Please explain the laws they broke -- with links.

Have charges been filed?

ALL votes need to be counted.

If it's about a deadline to stop vote counts -- there's something wrong with that.

This covers some of the Broward shenanigans. Do you want me to find the Palm Beach hearing on the same subject?

Don't worry, I trust you'll continue to pretend you don't hear the judge say the law is being violated.

NO - I don't want FOX Entertainment.

What facts, officially documented charges do you have in print?

It is literally only a video of the entire hearing. Zero commentary. Whole context.

Look, the hearing is meaningless. The Republicans have made accusations of voter fraud, but as usual, without evidence.

As Florida heads towards a machine recount for the Senate and gubernatorial races, prominent Republicans are alleging voter fraud by Democrats trying to create new votes for their candidates. Republicans have not cited any evidence to back up their accusations, but both parties have expressed frustration with Broward County, whose beleaguered electoral system has been under scrutiny since ballot confusion played a major role in the 2000 presidential election.

LINK

Until you have evidence all you have is wild accusations. This is just like Trump claiming 3 million illegal immigrants voted in the last election. It's all bluster.

Trump tried to validate the integrity of the election, he was blocked by many states.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Annee
We have 50 states.

I'd say the same voting/counting issues happen in all of states.

But, every election cycle the same "Red"
states kick up a fuss.

And why? Because a Republican's margin is too close to call.

The same red states with the same notorious blue counties having the same ridiculous issues.

Funny isn't it.

Who's making the fuss?

Same issues in other states. But, they just get their business done.

True, but not every county has an election supervisor that went on record admitting she saw illegal voting, and didn't contact the proper authorities.

And how did that come about?

I expect it's all happened every where.

Difference is -- someone must have made an issue of it.

Oh? But you're the one posting articles claiming voter fraud is a myth.

So which is it?

The courts are filled with activists judges with no regards for the law, if two judges conflict. Given the history of the existence of many liberal judges that oppose law and order, don't think some random quote regards a ballot destroyer means much, from what is likely another liberal activist judge.

One judge has her in contempt, she has destroyed ballots previously to impede recounts, such a person has already proven their lack of moral character. Keep defending a potential ballot stuffer and evidence destroyer.

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: BlackJackal

The hearing where the judge finds Broward SEO is violating the law by not allowing external inspection and anti-ballot stuffing measures is "meaningless"? So presumably so is the fact they're still in contempt..

I guess if we ignore the laws we don't like, don't allow access to external inspection, and generally pretend nothing is happening, it's easy to say "there's no evidence" .

No they definitely should allow those things. But that is NOT evidence of voter fraud. That is attempting to block inspections for some stupid reason. Anne kept asking you for voter fraud proof and this is what you gave her. This is NOT voter fraud in any context of the word. That is why it is meaningless. Try harder.

Plus, if you look up, you will see I have provided you with a judges opinion explicitly stating that voter fraud has not occurred.

Jesus do you think its possible they are blocking inspections because something rotten is going on?!

Voter fraud =/= Fraudulent voter.

If someone is filling out a ballot in the name of someone else, that is an instance of voter fraud.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: BlackJackal

The hearing where the judge finds Broward SEO is violating the law by not allowing external inspection and anti-ballot stuffing measures is "meaningless"? So presumably so is the fact they're still in contempt..

I guess if we ignore the laws we don't like, don't allow access to external inspection, and generally pretend nothing is happening, it's easy to say "there's no evidence" .

No they definitely should allow those things. But that is NOT evidence of voter fraud. That is attempting to block inspections for some stupid reason. Anne kept asking you for voter fraud proof and this is what you gave her. This is NOT voter fraud in any context of the word. That is why it is meaningless. Try harder.

Plus, if you look up, you will see I have provided you with a judges opinion explicitly stating that voter fraud has not occurred.

Jesus do you think its possible they are blocking inspections because something rotten is going on?!

Voter fraud =/= Fraudulent voter.

If someone is filling out a ballot in the name of someone else. That is an instance of voter fraud.

if you have nothing to hide you don't destroy ballots needed for a recount of a prior election. Someone who even destroys evidence seems like they've basically confessed.

They're even fighting for illegal votes to be counted.

Will be surprised if they don't face jail time for this.

originally posted by: Xenogears

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: BlackJackal

The hearing where the judge finds Broward SEO is violating the law by not allowing external inspection and anti-ballot stuffing measures is "meaningless"? So presumably so is the fact they're still in contempt..

I guess if we ignore the laws we don't like, don't allow access to external inspection, and generally pretend nothing is happening, it's easy to say "there's no evidence" .

No they definitely should allow those things. But that is NOT evidence of voter fraud. That is attempting to block inspections for some stupid reason. Anne kept asking you for voter fraud proof and this is what you gave her. This is NOT voter fraud in any context of the word. That is why it is meaningless. Try harder.

Plus, if you look up, you will see I have provided you with a judges opinion explicitly stating that voter fraud has not occurred.

Jesus do you think its possible they are blocking inspections because something rotten is going on?!

Voter fraud =/= Fraudulent voter.

If someone is filling out a ballot in the name of someone else. That is an instance of voter fraud.

if you have nothing to hide you don't destroy ballots needed for a recount of a prior election. Someone who even destroys evidence seems like they've basically confessed.

They're even fighting for illegal votes to be counted.

Will be surprised if they don't face jail time for this.

Its all out in the open. Been that way for a few years now.

Some just wanna bury their heads in the sand, deflect, or argue semantics.

a reply to: xuenchen

Republican crying wolfsbane

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: xuenchen

Republican crying wolfsbane

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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

i'll make it simple for you. Late votes are not fake votes or found votes. They are simply provisional and mail in votes that get counted after the physical election day.

You don't know where these votes came from. No one does except snipes, and she refused to say. She either doesn't know, which makes them all highly suspect, or she knows that they are fraudulent, which makes them invalid. We do know that in Palm Beach, they were filling in "damaged" ballots which they were "interpreting" who the person might have voted. That isn't illegal as a remedy as long as the election board is allowed to observe. However, not only did they not notify the selection board, they refused to let them observe once the activity was discovered. You can lie can say that there is nothing wrong, but it would just be delusional thinking on your part..... resist by any means necessary...

You people, Trump says something, and everyone denies it, and we find out he's right all along with plenty of evidence to boot.

They made the dossier, started an illegal investigation on an opposing candidate, by falsifying the justification to spy with a tainted dossier, worse than watergate. Trump claimed they spied on him, all denied, yet it was proven true.

Now it appears they're proving Trump's claim about voter fraud true, if Trump made the right moves, the evidence will be clear.

a reply to: whargoul

although i agree with you that the voting can just be fine and still being counted

i dislike your usage and logic of saying "more people voted for democrats" - once again a trick by the global elite to convince you that you live in a "democracy" and that democracy should be #1 (rule of the masses)

a democracy is easily manipulated just like our "free speech" is through media and social media

regardless there is no such thing as democracy when the press is used to control people's minds so easily through mass psychology and dirty psych tactics

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you may also want to do a thought process and put yourself in the opposite pair of shoes - where you are the minority and the majority wants to dominate you. just like those before us stated, democracy is just two wolves and a lamb deciding whats for lunch

a reply to: Xenogears

Hit. The. Nail. On. The. Head.

Bravo!

originally posted by: Nyiah
If you're talking mail-ins, the postmark is what counts,

No, actually, in Fla, the law requires all mail-ins to be received by 7pm on election day.

Some other States do go by the postmark date, but not Florida.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: timequake

Every single DNC governor refused to cooperate and dragged their feet with the excuse that such a look into election fraud would violate personal privacy of voters.

No, not every DNC governor refused. Nor did every Republican governor comply.

There was an immediate bipartisan backlash and rejection of the inquiries with a majority of states quickly rejecting the requests.

State Responses

True, but the fact is, virtually none of them provided the information requested - meaning, more than the information that was publicly available, which isn't enough to determine if vote fraud is happening.

originally posted by: walkinghomer
What if the Dems claim Republicans are cheating because they make it harder for minority to vote.

Since this is easily disproven, you'll have to come up with a better example.

originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: Annee

You guys should listen to what Annee is saying.

Why should anyone have to listen to anyone who says idiotic things?

Republicans are trying to suppress votes from Democrats.

Proof? Didn't think so...

That’s why they fear recounts and accountability in the election process.

If Repubs were trying to suppress votes, recounts wouldn't have any effect.

What I think you mean when you say Repubs want to 'suppress votes' is, they want to exclude illegal (or otherwise invalid by law) ballots, and Dems want to 'count every vote', even these.

Interestingly, pretty much all of these illegal/questionable ballots are for Dems. I think that speaks volumes for ayone with eyes to see the truth.

a reply to: tanstaafl

You speak of the truth like you know what it is. So let's take a look at Republican voter suppression and do some research.

But those voters will be confronted by a byzantine array of voter restrictions, voter-suppression efforts, and voter discrimination standing in their way. A review by The Daily Beast found at least five voter-suppression practices in active use today. All are led by Republicans, all have disproportionate effects on non-white populations, and all are rationalized by bogus claims of voter fraud.

They include:
*Closing polling places in communities of color
*Purging eligible voters from the rolls without their knowledge
*Barring felons from voting
*Voter ID laws
*Eliminating early voting

Each one of these alone is troubling. In the aggregate, though, they paint an unmistakable picture of Republican efforts to hold on to power in an increasingly non-white nation by making it harder for non-white people to vote.

Republicans Have a Secret Weapon in the Midterms: Voter Suppression

I'll give you that you might be short-sighted and simply not grasp how these practices end up suppressing votes. You personally might think that "reducing voter fraud" is enough justification to suppress votes, but the facts show that voter fraud on the level you think it happens is a false fact, proven false, in fact.

Trump himself made a commission to investigate voter fraud, and it found none.

"I have reviewed the Commission documents made available to me and they do not contain evidence of widespread voter fraud," Maine's Democratic secretary of state, Matthew Dunlap, wrote in a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas' Republican secretary of state, Kris Kobach. In May 2017, the President established the commission after falsely claiming that "millions of people" voted illegally for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election, costing him the popular vote. Trump named Pence as chairman and Kobach -- a noted proponent of voter fraud theories and related policies -- as vice chair of the commission.

CNN: Trump voting commission had no evidence of widespread voter fraud, former member says

Trump may have a wet dream that he lost the popular vote due to voter fraud, but there is no evidence.