President Make Up Crap threatens to pull Federal Funding from California Wildfires

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: skywatcher44


LOL It's getting so easy to discern the tweets that his staffers write from the ones that Trump actually writes!

He writes his tweets not his staffers. LOL

Satire:

a reply to: skywatcher44


sad!
Trump staffers are reportedly drafting tweets for the president with errors, so they sound like him theweek.com...

Former Comms Director: Staffers Write Some Trump Tweets www.trunews.com...

Trump's staff ghostwrites some of his tweets and inserts grammatical errors to make them seem authentic www.businessinsider.com...

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: BlackJackal
In a tweet earlier today Trump had this to say:

There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!

Trumps Twitter

Trump’s claim that the wildfires are due to forest mismanagement has been rebuffed by multiple firefighting organizations.

The presidents of two professional firefighters associations have denounced President Donald Trump's assertion that "gross mismanagement of the forests" is to blame.

Additionally this isn’t the first time that Trump has made up fraudulent reasons for the wildfires in California. Earlier he blamed the fires on bad environmental laws without ever pointing out what those laws were and that water was being diverted to the ocean. There has never been any proof of either of those claims by Trump.

Welcome to America where out President just makes up crap and his supporters believe all the crap he makes up.

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Having come from there I can tell you he is entirely correct.

When you can't even partially clear, much less log a forest, all it does is add more and more and more fuel until something catches it on fire.

Even worse when you are not allowed to step foot on it because we need to save the ghastly flatulent slug, or whatever the eco-terrorists are planning to save that year.

Lots of California firefighters and a couple State Fire Marshalls in my family... they all say the same.

My own grandfather used to say that they need to plant the tree huggers in a seat and show them film of deer running out of a forest fire... on fire.

Maybe then they will get a clue.

Not possible in your case because Trump BAD RRhheeee....

But for thinking people on ATS it's a no-brainer.

The Native Americans in the area used to do their own controlled burns.

Why can't an "eco-friendly" population figure it out?

The idiot environazis in British Columbia Canada have caused the same issues up here.

Like literally the exact same crap for the exact same reasons. Restrictive logging rules etc etc etc.

These morons and windowlickers just can't get it through their idiot skulls that not clearing out old growth wood will lead to massive fires.

Just like BC has had 3 straight years now. Millions of hectares burnt. Millions of animals burnt alive. Entire ecosystems destroyed because a bunch of socialist a-holes that think a Saturday walk among some trees in a Vancouver Park makes them an outdoorsman.

Its absolute lunacy.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: BlackJackal

Yeah so made up. And yet if you Google anything prior to last month...

Cal Fire Chief Blames Wildfires on Mismanaged Forests

California's deadliest wildfires were decades in the making. 'We have forgotten what we need to do to prevent it'

Pyne... is the author of more than 30 books, most on the cultural and social effects of wildland and rural fires around the world. He is completing a 10-volume history of fire in the United States....

...the culmination of nearly a century of failed fire management practices that have been unable to address the increasing escalation — and conflict — between California's growing population and development, and California's intrinsic "fire proneness."

Fire management, Pyne argues, is not a technological or scientific problem. This is a societal and political problem.

The title of this thread should be BlackJackal makes crap up.

BOOM!!!!!

Roasted!

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Yes the president of the professional as in paid firefighters is sad because he might lose a revenue source. Look we occasionally get forest fires where I live like every 10 to 15 years it's usually because clowns get voted into state offices and divert money away from state forestry services. Cali has a long history of spending state money on the wrong causes and shorting money to desperately needed causes. Fine example they live beside an ocean how many droughts have they had in last 40 years that caused them to have draconian water usage laws placed on the populous now at same time how many gallons of water was besties allowed to harvest for basically free?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It doesn't even matter if California's forests are mismanaged or not. The fact that is President is essentially threatening to withhold federal disaster relief funding to push a political agenda while tens of thousands of Americans have seen their entire lives go up in flames is absolutely callous and abhorrent.

I don't see how anyone can defend him for that disgusting display.

Because its every year.

Shoot, California is the 7th largest economy? They'll be fine.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?

They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

Why dont you do some research and let us know instead of posting pointless tweets from herpes ridden drug addict musicians.

originally posted by: Knapperdude
Another little known fact is california had the largest population of pronghorn antelope in the U.S (pre gold rush), which formed huge herds, and would mow their way across the Sierra's eating everything in their path, including overgrown brush. by the 1880's most were gone, and in just a couple decades brush overgrowth had become quite evident, with a huge decline in deer populations due to the lack of young brush growth on which they rely upon.
I worked regularly with the wildlife biologist on the yosemite deer herd count, which is done at cherry lake, a man made lake put accidentally in the migration path of the yosemite herd in the 1920's. They did not alter their path, but just swim across the lake, stopping on a 30 sq yds island in the middle. We would use simple hand click counters get well over a hundred deer a day during the migration. I spoke with the same wildlife biologist about 5 years ago and inquired on the herd strength now, he said a 2/3 loss of the herd since the late 80's when I assisted him. He attributed it to lack of young edilble brush, and the moratorium on cougar hunting is to blame. cougar will eat 2 deer a week, and old age is the only enemy for the big cats now...another shining example of mismanagement in Ca. add the loss of what was probably their main prey in the antelope. I am by no mean a biologist...but it seems obvious you need to regulate a apex predator population?

one last point...I have done thousands of tree dendrology ( ring counting ) studies, and in the Sierra Nevada mountians 20 to 30 year droughts were and are common.

Its amazing that the idiot's that run California are carbon copies of the morons that run British Columbia.

originally posted by: Carcharadon

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?

They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

Why dont you do some research and let us know instead of posting pointless tweets from herpes ridden drug addict musicians.

Why don't you answer the question?

My response was to your question.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?

They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

Used to, were, was.

And paid for by homeowners.

Was this "like a" homeowners association a state government agency/entity? If not, then I think that speaks directly to the issue at hand. The state is not doing a good job, and people on the ground are having to take care of it themselves.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Carcharadon

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?

They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

Why dont you do some research and let us know instead of posting pointless tweets from herpes ridden drug addict musicians.

Why don't you answer the question?

My response was to your question.

You first.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: BlackJackal

I'll say this about that. Trump may well have been right in his assertion that mismanagement is to blame. This is definitely NOT the time to make that kind of remark. It's rude and slaps the face of those who are risking their lives to save homes and people.

I do know that around here, Ft. Bragg does controlled burns on a regular basis to prevent things like this.

Hmm let's look at some CA numbers here.
1 747 super tanker can carry 19,600 gallons of fire retardant. Other usual planes carry 1100 or less. Has to be brought in from Colorado to fight fires in California when needed.
Cost of the 747 Global Supertanker
$10 MILLION.
www.outsideonline.com...


California High Speed Rail Train cost could rise to over $100 BILLION dollars. This train will save no lives directly.
www.nytimes.com...

Go ahead and debate with the 6500 FAMILIES who lost their homes in and around Paradise California in the Camp Fire. Ask if they voted for the f#$%ing bullet train, that won't even come within 200 miles of them.
www.fire.ca.gov...

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Carcharadon

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?

They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

Why dont you do some research and let us know instead of posting pointless tweets from herpes ridden drug addict musicians.

Why don't you answer the question?

My response was to your question.

You first.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yin & Yang

I don't do "Ping Pong".

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: Annee

So really, I have to ask, do you have any opinion on the mismanagement, knowledge of the problem issues, dating back many, many years?

I mean really, they knew this could happen.
They did NOTHING about it?

They who?

Of what's burning, how much is:

-private land?
-state land?
-federal land?
-rented land?
-foreign owned land?
-corporate owned land?
-etc?

I can tell you in Bell Canyon they used to have like a homeowners association. Home owners were required to clear brush up to a certain distance from any structure. A watering system was installed on the hills surrounding the canyon -- paid by homeowners.

Used to, were, was.

And paid for by homeowners.

Was this "like a" homeowners association a state government agency/entity? If not, then I think that speaks directly to the issue at hand. The state is not doing a good job, and people on the ground are having to take care of it themselves.

My brother lived there. Also built homes there (Bell Canyon).

It was (maybe still is) a gated canyon.

You're a Republican?

And saying the government should be responsible not the people?

Convenient.

Here in Michigan things get trimmed whether you like it or not. If you fight it they will trim before they put your power back together after a storm. I live in the sand dunes so everything is underground for me but my neighbor is overhead through a different area.

a reply to: BlackJackal

"Welcome to America where out President just makes up crap and his supporters believe all the crap he makes up. "

not just the president. politicians on both sides do this. and a large number of followers on both sides soak this nonsense up.

originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: proximo

Trump likes to get stuff done

I thought it was "just a tweet."
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It is for now. He is a businessman, he does a/b testing by throwing ideas out and testing the reaction.

Yes, and it works quite well.

Science could easily prove..if allowed.. that anything the leftist liberal supports humanity just has to do the opposite and most things are solved.

We are seeing that facing facts cannot be ignored...Dems,socialists, supporters of damaged feelings, obsessed about all things they can reverse and experiment with..destroyers of history, scoffers of all previous knowledge...are not only regressive...but likely the product of the final attempt to create a new slave race....

The differences between vision of the future...aka they don't have any but negativity and death...are too stark..the separation has begun.

If this gets them to be proper stewards of the land then so be it. Tired of seing the natural world suffer at the hands of people who pretend to care. They literally can't see the forest for the trees.

Like seeing a empty bag of vegin chips discarded in the woods. Your virtue signalling doesn't translate to reality well.