President embarrassment skips ww1 grave visit because it’s raining.

a reply to: JAY1980

You'd manage come up with a reason to be outraged if he went! Don't try and deny it.

I won't deny it... Because he'd probably try to find a way to make it all about him as usual.
That's probably the reason he begged off. He couldn't think of a way to make it about him.
But I heard he had a private little ceremony in a more convenient cemetery and I'm sure we will hear how it was more pious and more personal than the big ceremony in the cemetery
located fifty miles away and how smart he was to find a close by cemetery and save travel expenses.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: blackrabbit1

The whole AMERICA FIRST campaign push eliminated that.
Or did everyone forget that?

Yea...because showing moral, principled and decent leadership skills never worked out for anyone!

a reply to: Steveogold

He went to Paris to attend this specific ceremony and what? He didnt schedule time for it? How stupid is that? Who is his secretary? ... and oh hey by the way weren't the guys who did attend returning home on the same flight? Or did they catch a ride with someone else? Just some details that would be important to consider.
Anyone? Bueller?

a reply to: Knapperdude

No there were two ceremonies he went to another one also about fifty miles away.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: rickymouse

It was a US war grave site in France for US soldiers who fought there.

Surely they are deserving of the respect of The President of The United States of America?

Its has nothing to do with other leaders and everything to do with your President.

The president cannot go to every cemetery on veterans day in this country let alone France. I think his job is to run this country, not get jerked over to every available event like that. I did not vote for a president to do that, I can see him making an appearance at a disaster site.....after the threats are diminished. I do not see your leaders traveling to go to a gravesite, England's heirchy is going to Westminster abby. The President of France is probably at a site somewhere, I do not think our president needs to go off on his own to our local cemetary there. We have veterans day here, we do not celebrate that day of yours anyway.

Our president does not have to follow Europe's program, he should follow our traditions. He is not your president he is ours. If I was president I would not even consider going to that graveyard, especially on a rainy cold day. I highly doubt if other presidents would have gone there, the security on that little adventure probably would cost millions of bucks. There would have to be air escorts, multiple helicoptors, and security blocking anyone from entering the gravesite unless they were searched and had very good credentials. It would disrupt the locals from visiting the site on THEIR national remembrance day. What a stupid thing to even think about going there, Trump should have thought this over before even saying he would go in the first place. Trump is not nearly as smart as he believes he is. He is president of this country, he should not be putting himself into risky unnecessary situations which cost taxpayers lots of money. He does it all the time though, Grrrr.

a reply to: rickymouse

But he flew there specifically for this soooooo I'm having a bit of an issue swallowing the whole he didnt have time bs line.
Hes an oaf. Admit it and move on. No class no manners no honor no compassion no kidding.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: JAY1980

You'd manage come up with a reason to be outraged if he went! Don't try and deny it.

I won't deny it... Because he'd probably try to find a way to make it all about him as usual.
That's probably the reason he begged off. He couldn't think of a way to make it about him.
But I heard he had a private little ceremony in a more convenient cemetery and I'm sure we will hear how it was more pious and more personal than the big ceremony in the cemetery
located fifty miles away and how smart he was to find a close by cemetery and save travel expenses.

Hey, I totally agree with you on this, Trump should have said no in the first place, I am sure his wife didn't want to go for a two hour helicopter ride in the first place. She would have much rather go check out the stores....damn, most stores are closed on that holiday. Why the hell did they even go to France on that day, to watch parades? How much did that trip cost American Taxpayers?

a reply to: rickymouse

England's heirchy is going to Westminster abby. The President of France is probably at a site somewhere, I do not think our president needs to go off on his own to our local cemetary there

Well the war was fought on their turf so there's the home team advantage huh? But those Americans.... they traveled there by boat because in 1917 we didn't have planes enough to fly troops around. Imagine how long that took?

Probably he got bummed out that there wasn't going to be a parade.

a reply to: rickymouse

but he didn't say no because he thought oh goody another pomp and circumstance moment to wear my tuxedo. Only it wasn't it was standing in the rain to honor someone else, dead people no less. What's the fun in that?

a reply to: rickymouse

And your chauvinistic comments about women and shopping are insulting to the first lady and every woman who attended.
and women in general.

a reply to: rickymouse

It's the 100th anniversary of the end of the First World War. The 100th anniversary. It means a great deal. The USA did not lose as many men as the other nations but they still lost almost 117,000 men killed.
It means a great deal.
We remember the dead today. In the words of the memorial at Kohima, they gave their today for our tomorrow. Even an oaf like Trump needs to realise that.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

England's heirchy is going to Westminster abby. The President of France is probably at a site somewhere, I do not think our president needs to go off on his own to our local cemetary there

Well the war was fought on their turf so there's the home team advantage huh? But those Americans.... they traveled there by boat because in 1917 we didn't have planes enough to fly troops around. Imagine how long that took?

Probably he got bummed out that there wasn't going to be a parade.

Your last reason is probably the reason he didn't go, the parade was canceled because of the rain, he was probably supposed to sit in the back of a cool classic European car.

originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

England's heirchy is going to Westminster abby. The President of France is probably at a site somewhere, I do not think our president needs to go off on his own to our local cemetary there

Well the war was fought on their turf so there's the home team advantage huh? But those Americans.... they traveled there by boat because in 1917 we didn't have planes enough to fly troops around. Imagine how long that took?

Probably he got bummed out that there wasn't going to be a parade.

Your last reason is probably the reason he didn't go, the parade was canceled because of the rain, he was probably supposed to sit in the back of a cool classic European car.

It wasn't a parade. It was a trip to a cemetery. Perhaps if it HAD been a parade, with lots of shiny tanks and men with guns, the Orange Oaf would have attended.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

And your chauvinistic comments about women and shopping are insulting to the first lady and every woman who attended.
and women in general.

My wife really likes to go shopping, so do my daughters. I like to shop too. I actually do not know anyone who does not like to go shopping, I prefer stores like Menards and Hardware stores, she likes Kohls and stores with cool antiques. I don't care for clothing stores much, I prefer Tractor Supply and Guy's sporting good stores or the Mar-z-dotes for my boots and Shopko for my New Balance Tennis shoes. My wife and daughters like micheals too, one daughter and her husband make cakes, my wife knits dishrags. We do what we like, I do not tell a woman it is bad if she knits if they like knitting. I know girls who race cars and snowmobiles and motorcycles, I am not going to tell them they have to take up knitting. We live in the UP, everyone has different likes and dislikes here, most people ignore stuff about sexual profiling here because nobody gives a damn, you hang out with people like you. You never piss off a woman if you are a guy here, it will come back and bite you in the ass someday. Females are a lot more ruthless here than most of the guys, they cut each other down all the time, we learn to stay away. Women judging other women usually causes more conflict here than guys acting like puppydogs chasing their tails. Women are ruthless when they get fired up. Us guys used to just punch the guy in the nose and next time you see him, buy him a beer. I am glad I outgrew that long ago. Now I have to watch it happen in my daughter and and granddaughter and their friends. I get bitched at for trying to reason with them too much, they like being pissed off I think. There is no way to reason with a pissed off woman sometimes.

Oh, sorry about profiling, I know there are woman who do not act that way somewhere in the world.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

but he didn't say no because he thought oh goody another pomp and circumstance moment to wear my tuxedo. Only it wasn't it was standing in the rain to honor someone else, dead people no less. What's the fun in that?

People who died a hundred years ago do not vote for republican congressmen. Recently deceased vote all the time.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

I thought there was shome mishtake shurely when fatty Soammes hands were on a keyboard instead of an eight year old boarding school fag.

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: Rewey

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Rewey
a reply to: soundguy

I'm a bit confused. Earlier this year, deranged lefties in the US tore down statues commemorating fallen American soldiers who fought and died. I don't remember this sort of disdain and outrage then?

But Trump is evil because he didn't attend another such memorial? Would there be outrage if Antifa tore that down too?

Oh come off it. Trump was not attending a memorial for the Confederacy. Not even he is that stupid. The two examples are not analogous at all.

Confederates were still Americans fighting for something they believed in, and like it or not they had a far greater impact on the American identity than those fighting in ww1. Just because you don't agree with their cause doesn't diminish that.

I was a former history teacher, with a history professor and two war historians in the family. If you don't think that the 'good guys' did some pretty horrible things during war (any wars), then you're kidding yourself. But they're still honoured, which I 100% agree with - I've also had family fight in every major war since ww1.

What? Seriously What the Freak?

How in the hell do soldiers that fought for a failed rebellion have a “far greater” impact on American Identity than the soldiers of WW1?

WW1 is remembered by all Americans, Confederate soldiers are only remembered by hillbillies and red necks. Damn you must have been a #ty history teacher

Because the Civil War itself is still very prominent as part of the American image, and therefore soldiers on both sides are part of that. I would argue far more Americans could rattle off the names of key towns and battlefields, generals, and even the reasons for the civil war starting and ending than could for ww1? The civil war's importance on many elements of US politics and social life also far outweigh that of ww1. The fact that the confederate flag is even still in existence today is surely evidence of that? Again, I'm not suggesting the confederacy were the good guys...

a reply to: soundguy

Where are people like you when people are burning flags? Where’s the outrage when protesters call former service members nazis? Where are your big crocodile tears when communists call for revolution in this country?

You people simply fall silent and turn a blind eye. If a commie burns a flag, the left will cheer him on. If the president misses veteran’s day, you’re suddenly the biggest patriots ever. Make up your minds.

Didn't stop this guy:

a reply to: scolai


I wasn't aware that Trump's refusal to attend the memorial service for American's killed on European soil, during WWI, was an action of protest. What, exactly was the President protesting?

And, all this time, I thought it was just a logistical problem.