Democrats still want a carbon tax

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: CriticalStinker

You dont honestly believe the trucking companies are just going to absorb the extra cost without passing on the bill do you?

Nope.

You don't honestly think that taxing everyone equally wouldn't have ramifications as well do you?

You don't honestly think that not addressing our infrastructure issue won't have impacts on the country as a whole do you?

We all recognize we have problems, we all just see different solutions.

What I said was an example of a solution.

As I've said before, we need to cut spending and allocate it to other places, but I doubt that will happen.

My money is on everyone continues to argue about it.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I have ran several businesses and one universal truth us the ultimately the customers pay for everything.

Cuts must happen but that's when the squealing starts..

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: CriticalStinker

I have ran several businesses and one universal truth us the ultimately the customers pay for everything.

Cuts must happen but that's when the squealing starts..

I'll go one further, and say that businesses pay when we undercut the purchasing power of the consumer as well. Tax the consumer, they spend less, tax the businesses, they pay more.

That said, we will have to address our infrastructure in the next five years, the question is how.

A. Increase taxes for a group, or everyone.

B. Cut spending, allocate money.

1. Domestic spending, probably social programs.
2. Foreign policy spending, probably war spending.

Either way, everyone will argue, and I doubt we'll have substantial improvements on our infrastructure.

Hmmmmm....

Democrats' primary voting base is the socialistic/lower-income Americans. (and non-Americans, if we're splitting hairs).

Democrats create a system of dependency on welfare (as statistically proven), with programs that reward low income and creates incentives to stay in poverty.

Carbon taxes Equal low-income families being hit with higher, unaffordable expenses, and they know it.

Low-income families now are in more need of socialist/welfare policies.

Democrats retain voter base and have more people with low income due to taxes.

Democrats get more voters with their BS promises of Taxing everyone into prosperity.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

a reply to: Aallanon

Everyone who proposes a carbon tax in an official capacity is part of the global elite we have proven are our enemies.

Use it as an enemy banner. "What do you think about the carbon tax?" If they like it then they are your enemy.

No other subject draws clear lines in the sand like that. Avoiding an answer beyond saying "I don't know" shows the same support that an emphatic yes would have.

Try it. It's like sunglasses from "They live"

a reply to: tadaman

Here is the thing, even if Man Made Global Warming was true what does a punitive Carbon Tax solve?

We have Income tax, does that motivate people to make less money?

We already have fuel taxes. Does that change the fact that I have to drive to work?

We have Sales Tax. Does that stop me from buying things I need or want?

Thus, a carbon tax will not prevent carbon emissions.

Also, what is all that ta money going to be used for anyway? DO they promise to save the planet with it or something?


If people really want to do something good for the planet, they should reject globalism and support local manufacturing:
www.lngtransfer.com...

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Aallanon

Even if you don't believe climate change is man induced, that doesn't mean that we can't speed it up.

Even if you don't believe we can't speed it up, that doesn't mean it doesn't degrade the air quality to burn fuel.

So we can all agree it hurts air quality, so I see no reason why trucking companies shouldn't help out in the localities they are burning such by paying a little extra at the pump.

That said, what degrades roads the fastest? Tractor Trailers.

I don't see whats so wrong with asking those who put more weight (literally) on our infrastructure (which is past due on repairs) to pay a little extra.

I'm not sure that's where the tax is going, but it should be.

What would you rather, everyone pay equal share to repair roads and help air quality? Or ask those that abuse those two the most to fork over a little extra?

So it's better to squeeze a bit more money from the Truckers, so the cost of goods will increase and this somehow equates to less pollution? I'm not sure I follow your logic here.

There is no room for logic in the liberal world.
Dontchya know ?

a reply to: Aallanon

Yeah, but they ain't the smartest crackers in the box.

Especially if you grade on a curve.

This is the perfect tax! Now, the Democrats can charge you for every breath that you take.