How many of you access or use the "dark or Deep web"?

We've all heard about it, unless you live under a rock, Silk Road made it a household name, TOR made it available to the masses (THANKS US NAVY!!!) and now it is known as the seediest and most dangerous part of cyberworld. I have been online since well before the WWW came along mainstream, before AOL took off and I was limited to local BBS's (which were basically local websites where you used you phone/modem to call them and connect to their site - all owned and paid for by the site operator). For the most part these were invite only and you had to know someone to get access to it, even if you knew the phone #, good luck getting an account if no-one would vouch for you unless it was just some chat-group or some recipe swapping site. I think these BBS's is where porn really started to take off as well as digital piracy (Warez - pronounces wares - like show me your wares - or "housewares"). The boards were a close community for the most part, usually a handful of members as only a few people could be online at a time unless it was a sponsored board by some rich bloke.

It now seems we have come full circle and the Deep Web is the new private BBS's. You have to know where to go to look for them. Search engines don't index these sites and if they do (the deep web indexing engines) they are often outdated hours after indexing! So everything is constantly on the move and it is going to be a TOTAL nightmare for law enforcement to try to crack down on this and it is going to lead to A LOT of problems in the future. The Silk Road is going to seem like a pre-school class project compared to what is coming down the pike.

I'm wondering how many of you snoop around on the DD/web (Deep/Dark) - Maybe we can give it a new domain pre-face instead of www we can use ddd for (deep dark dank), or deep dark dirty, or dark dank dangerous - or whatever, so you go to the site ddd.hitman-for-hire.onion - or end it with ddd tor.hitmen-for-hire.ddd, ddd.Hits4cash.vidalia.

If you go to the DDD what do you look for, what is the most interesting thing you have found and what is the most disturbing? Is there anything of practical use that you have found that you would actually share with others or has much/most of it been repulsive?

I think this topic would be an excellent topic for ATS members to research as a large group project. We could dig around and share the results of what we found, maybe creating some kind of small directory of what we have come across and have others double check, verify and give cooberating explanations of what they saw. This part of the web might be the largest, least explored section of todays society and probably the least mapped (besides underground caves and "inner earth", lol).

So what say yall? Does any of this sound interesting to any of you? Would you want to peruse the DDD web?

What actually is the dark or deep web? I have heard people talk about it but was afraid to ask what it is in fear of appearing to be a clueless moron.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

To be honest...
I have a healthy fear of the law. I've seen plenty of cases where someone illegally downloaded a movie like starwars and the FBI conveniently shows up out of nowhere and makes the arrest. Oh... and somehow illegal porn was attached to that Star Wars movie. So to date I have not ventured to deep, try not at all.

My curiosity of the deep or dark web is my desire to find the current or next Generation Aircraft Projects. I wanted to find an out of print book written by an SR-71 pilot... Brian Shul.
I was directed from ATS to get a copy from https:// unblocked-pw.github.io
I've yet to figure out how that site opporates...

Kick a$$ torrent.. I've heard plenty. But my ability to browse, I've never seen this Deep Dark web... people talk of it, but it's like freaking Bigfoot.

a reply to: Bigburgh

There's a fun series on youtube called Deep Web Browsing. The guy uses a virtual machine to check out the 'Dank Web,'

My conclusion is that most of the extremely sinister stuff there is fake, but I still wouldn't touch it with a 29 and a half foot pole.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

I'll see if I can find the Dank webz on YT. Myself nor my browser has the Cajones.🙄😆

Edit: was that Grinch reference?
"29 and a half foot pole"👍👍😆😆

a reply to: Bigburgh

The Grinch references me, bro

It's not a bad idea; but,

what's the first rule about fight club again?

I follow the YouTube Deep Web Browsing as well. Or at least on topics I can stand, at least he only loosely goes into some of those nasty, ick. Interestingly a lot of that can be found normally without the deep web as well. ie talking about conspiracy topic sites.

a reply to: NarcolepticBuddha

Off sub:
But the phrase you seek is..

"You are a product of your environment.... I like to think the environment is a product of me"😊

originally posted by: [post=23824572]Bigburgh[/
I was directed from ATS to get a copy from https:// unblocked-pw.github.io
I've yet to figure out how that site opporates...

Kick a$$ torrent.. I've heard plenty. But my ability to browse, I've never seen this Deep Dark web... people talk of it, but it's like freaking Bigfoot.

download tiaxti www.tixati.com... and use it for the magnetic links , works great

Like I said, I try to stay away as well, never heard anything good coming out of it, but I can say that I'm sure there are A LOT of good, legitimate things on it.
Basically the "deep web' is anything that the search engines can't index or see.

Let's say you have a web server on your home router (or computer behind the router). You have your public "www" folder which is all the folders accessible to peopel on the web. If you submit your IP address to Google/bing, they will "Crawl" your address and your WWW folder and see what is in there. Bam you are on the public net.

Now say you have other folders like "DDD" (deep dark dank) and there is a bunch of stuff you don't want ever joe blow to see, but only people you invite or who have links or are referred to you. This folder can be accessed in a number of ways. you can apply for a domain address (like what you use to get to ATS), and it is usually something like this: DH4o25kleDHJjDn42dl33gfWh4.onion and this address can change every few hours to days, months to never. The more it chages the more secure but more difficult to find. So once it changes how do you find it again? Well this is the weak link ATM. It is posted in certain places. Some sites break up the address between multiple locations, some throw in fake parts and other jazz. You really have to be "in the know" to find some of these sites. Once you get the long string of alpha-numeric numbers you use a browser like TOR (sometimes called an onion router), which breaks up the traffic.

A conventional site may look like it is one building - traffic flowing in and out are all going to one site, but an onion router, the traffic going in and out could be "teleported" anywhere - like to another "building"/server. This service relies on people opening up their router/computer to act as a "middleman' for entry/routing/exit nodes, so it is a massive distributed networking system that breaks up traffic among MANY "buildings" and recombines the data when it gets to the destination, oh an it is usually all encrypted as well, making everything that much more difficult to decipher. The best way to crack a deep web site is by sitting on exit nodes and following traffic flows, which is why it is good idea to switch up methods of running the nodes and even limiting what sites can be visited from day to day (if you ban a site on Mon, someone else will have access to it, but you will have more bandwidth for other sites). It is complex and there are a lot of downsides to it as well, that I won't get into.

Yes there is a problem with hiding pornography within normal pictures and I have even heard it is done with movies. I beleive it is called steganography and it is one of the most insidious forms of technology (when used for child porn or snuff) that I can imagine, but it is also very useful for hiding things like account passwords, secret messages, notes, and other things you don't want easily found. The problem is that I think there have been prosecutions of people with content on their computers that had hidden porn within regular pictures (like wallpaper backgrounds). I heard there was a 24GB wall paper blu ray that was like 75% child porn but hidden behind beautiful scenery and the average person would never now it was hidden there. I heard a lot of this is sold in Europe and Asia, Especially Thailand and China - but that is gossip, so take that for what you will (Elon).

The Dark web could also be a place where you host your entire 5,000 CD collection, 2,000 DVD's and 10,000 books. You don't want to get busted for copy right infringement, so you don't make it public, but only accessible to those you give the address to and it makes it almost impossible to trace where the files are being hosted - on some cheap $100 laptop with a 4TB external hard drive plugged in running off a pirated WiFi connection in their apartment building. That is also a large part of the Dark web. Or sharing "banned books", or books that used to be accepted but now b/c of politics are looked at as 'terroristic" or maybe they encourage family values. In some countries the Bible would be on the dark web (myanmar) as whell as the korahn and Torah. Just about anything can be found on it and people who can hack have even more access than the invited people as they can get into parts that aren't supposed to be shared so dark web hosts set themselves up as being targets for hackers looking for thinks like bank accoutns, and worthy blackmail information

en.wikipedia.org...(anonymity_network)

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Warez was named for Software... lol

I was on BBS's when only 1 person could call in at a time, using a 300 baud modem. And you only got 30 mins a day, on most. Not so much invite, but the sysop had to ask some questions...

There is a list of onion addresses on the dark web that point you to where you can go. Some mundane, some disgusting. I poked my nose in once, and won't bother again, nothing there interests me. It's bad enough up here on the normal web, with narcissists everywhere. Apart from a local reddit sub for my city, I am not on any social media any more. Toxic and dire.

The darkweb/deepweb is what gave bitcoin a bad name too, all the noobs who have no idea, only heard that it was used to buy drugs on the internet.

Bit like when MP3's first came about. Anything to do with them, was 100% pirating.. now it's the main method of buying music. Same with torrents, yet more and more methods of distribution now use it for getting large amounts of data to clients, with minimal server load.

But yeah, not only is TOR insanely slow, it's only good for me, for accessing sites that have been knocked off the main net, like piratebay.

originally posted by: Parishna
Warez was named for Software... lol

I was on BBS's when only 1 person could call in at a time, using a 300 baud modem. And you only got 30 mins a day, on most. Not so much invite, but the sysop had to ask some questions...

There is a list of onion addresses on the dark web that point you to where you can go. Some mundane, some disgusting. I poked my nose in once, and won't bother again, nothing there interests me. It's bad enough up here on the normal web, with narcissists everywhere. Apart from a local reddit sub for my city, I am not on any social media any more. Toxic and dire.

The darkweb/deepweb is what gave bitcoin a bad name too, all the noobs who have no idea, only heard that it was used to buy drugs on the internet.

Bit like when MP3's first came about. Anything to do with them, was 100% pirating.. now it's the main method of buying music. Same with torrents, yet more and more methods of distribution now use it for getting large amounts of data to clients, with minimal server load.

But yeah, not only is TOR insanely slow, it's only good for me, for accessing sites that have been knocked off the main net, like piratebay.

Warez, yes software, apps, etc. I was trying to show how it was pronounced. I guess I should have used the proper word for which it was named. I used to think it was said like "Jaurez" like the city in Mexico, lol!!! But I was only about 9-10 at the time. Man those days were fun. Finding Duke Nukem, Doom, Hexen, Heretic, etc on the boards the day they came out. I never understood how people cracked them so quick! It was such a great way to test drive the games b/c none of the stores ever had playable samples like now and spending $50 (like 2-3 months savings and $50 back then is like $100-125 now) SUCKED if the game was horrible. I always downloaded first to try then saved and bought if it was worth it, same with all my friends.

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

I wanted to find an out of print book written by an SR-71 pilot... Brian Shul.

It wasn't Sled Driver by any chance, was it? A fantastic read!

Here you go - Sled Driver

On topic, I have no real understanding of the darknet or the deep web, but I've always been intrigued by it. I've just never tried going there as even accidentally coming across something nefarious could land one in trouble - simply scrolling past kiddie porn would be considered in law over here as 'producing' indecent images, yeah thanks but no thanks for me on that one.

Following this thread out of interest,

Went on there once or twice as a young teenager in 2007.
Can’t ever unsee.

The darkweb is great for hackers though, sharing exploits etc. also leaked government info that can’t be put up on the vanilla web.

You can also buy hacked accounts, if I remeber correctly it was $7 for 50000 FB account passwords back in the day.
The possibilities are endless, but it gets used for all the wrong reasons.

TOR also isn’t as anonymous as one might think

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

LOL IRC was also where warez were well known, just after the BBS days. FServers, 0day lists, but getting access was trick. Lived on dalnet for so long, got Klinsed more than once for hassling the perverts that dalvenjah seemed to protect, finding winggates on the subnet of someone with OP status in a channel, connecting as them and kicking the entire lot of freaks off.. Haha writing an OOB nuked and sending a kill packet to them, watching them ping time out one by one..

Those days were crazy fun.. Hebe. But the first time I plugged my 300 gaud modem in and called a system, and out of nowhere all this information just appeared on my C64, I was hooked. And no one else was interested.. Now everyone has internet, but will never know how it all started.

The dark Web just feels ugly by comparison. I'd do anything to relive the old days, when you didn't point and click, but had to be innovative

Eta: typing on this phone, oh the irony...

Never been on but have seen a couple of videos about it and they come to the conclusion that it was set up by the alphabets and they use it for their purpose so don't look for it to be policed or took down. It's too valuable for them.

if i'd have a very good computer, it would among other things be to use dark web. it's just too slow on the computers i use, and i'm fine without it, too.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

I remember downloading TOR just to check out silk road, when it was being talked about and was becoming all the rage all over the net... Never had any intention of buying anything... my own gut instinct told me that you'd probably have less chance of being caught buying drugs from the normal internet, than from silk road.

Which is probably a total exaggeration of the reality of the situation, but still...Kinda makes you wonder, when you see how silk road went down.

They always made it out to look like 'Dread Pirate Roberts' was an untouchable... like the authorities were completely powerless and unable to identify who he was.

Then he gets way to blatantly cocky and goes and does that Forbes interview.

Then bang! Just like that they nabbed him.

It was almost as if they were allowing 'Dread Pirate Roberts' and his silk road site to exist, out of some kind of invested interest... But then that Forbes interview crossed some kind of line... so they shut it down.

IDK though... maybe that's just my conspiracy theory instincts trying to make a rational connection to something that was actually just a total coincidence.