Syrian Civil War -- fascinating new developments likely signal the beginning of the end.

I've been following the civil war in Syria from the beginning. For several months now, it's been clear the rebels were going to lose, and that re-taking Idlib was the last major battle left to be fought. Now, it appears that Russia and Turkey might have made a major offensive unnecessary, sparing thousands of lives.

Over the last week or so, Turkey & Russia have been negotiating with the Rebels and the Syrian government over creating a demilitarized zone along the border between Idlib and the government-held areas. The DMZ is to be about 15-20 km wide. Of course, everyone assumed that it would be divided equally between Rebel- & Government-held areas. But now that it's been implemented, it turns out the DMZ is entirely inside Idlib, inside the Rebel areas. They need to pull back 15 to 20 km, while Assad's forces seemingly don't need to yield an inch.

It's not hard to see what's happening: this might, possibly, be the beginning of the pullout of rebel forces from Syria. If this goes well, you can expect the DMZ to be expanded, forcing further pullback by the Rebels, until they're forced out of Syria entirely. The proper Turkish troops have, as best I can recall, not fought the Syrian forces. If the plan is the way I figure it, they'll hang around to ensure order until the Rebels have left, then they'll leave and hand Idlib back to the Syrian government. Turkey's main interest all along has been to prevent the Kurds from forming their own state, because they believe this will cause trouble with Turkey's own Kurdish minority. We can assume this has been handled. There have been signs for some time now that Kurdish leaders have been talking to the Syrian government, and in all likelihood they'll end up agreeing to give up on the idea of an independent Kurdish state (exactly as happened in Iraq).

In a probably-related development, tribal leaders in the US-controlled area around al-Tanf are now meeting with officials from Damascus. There's really only one way to interpret that: they're considering reconciliation with the Assad government. There have been unconfirmed rumors for a couple of weeks now that US forces were preparing to abandon al-Tanf, and these meeting suggest that might be true. At this point, the only real activity involving US forces is fighting a small ISIS-held pocket near the border with Iraq, and that's being done mainly by Kurdish troops, with assistance by US forces that (I think) are based in Iraq.

Somewhere in the bowels of Hell, a former US senator is looking up in despair, because his plans to start WWIII will not come to fruition.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan


This might help.. or might keep you abreast.
syria.liveuamap.com...

Edit: it's a live map of the ongoing conflicts.

And many people believe the Biblical Prophecy about Damascus.


1. There are two major world wars yet to occur before the return of the Lord. These are prophesied in the book of Revelation as the sixth and seventh trumpets:


a. WWIII - in which it appears from the wording that two billion or more people will die, and

b. WWIV - which is Armageddon, and will occur a few years later.

2. Note that the sixth trumpet war begins from the Euphrates river area, where we have many troops in battle already today. The Euphrates River is completely controlled by Muslims, from its source in Turkey, through Syria and Iraq (the longest section) to its mouth at Iran. (Rev 9:13-21; "the four angels were loosed, which were prepared… for to slay the third part of men" – just over two billion people now.)



3. Related to these, there is another prophecy that we have been following for a few years about Damascus, Syria. ALL of the prophecies in the bible have either been perfectly fulfilled already, or will be fulfilled in the next few years. The prophecy in Isaiah 17:1-3 says that Damascus will be destroyed and its kingdom shall cease. These things have never happened yet. Here is the exact wording:


1The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.



2The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.



3The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria:

From the link above..

If I was the West, I'd just call it quits. All is clearly lost. An utterly humiliating defeat for the West and their Gulf puppet masters, an absolute triumph for Syria, her people, her leader and her allies.

Actually I wouldn't have started this war in the first place. But technicalities, right?

Well your clearly not the west..... how's that influx of islum working for you ?

a reply to: Ohanka

a reply to: Plotus

you may like to consider chucking in ezekiel 29 10
a bit of daniel and some of matthew and also mention the building of the third temple

a reply to: Plotus

What ever dude

a reply to: Plotus

Nicely done summary!

I'm fascinated by bible prophecy BUT I think that none of the "systems" have it all correct. It hasn't all happened already, nor has none of it happened. The "already but not yet" philosophy makes the most sense to me. I also suspect that Revelation describes one or a few events, but viewed from different vantage points (meaning, it's not to be read chronologically). But again- I dokt know, so I'm open minded about it.

The deal with Damascus is fascinating for sure.

originally posted by: pronto
a reply to: Plotus

you may like to consider chucking in ezekiel 29 10
a bit of daniel and some of matthew and also mention the building of the third temple

Eh. Nobody really knows what the 70 weeks are. None of the explanations work out completely; if they do, they are glossing over or leaving something out.

Don’t forget the bible was written when they thought that little sh1t hole was the centre of the world. They didn’t realise that the British Empire and then American would (to coin a Martian phrase) science the sh1t out of it and remove all but oil from their relevance.

Did those books mention oil at all? Strange that the biggest thing keeping any attention on the Middle East is not even mentioned, yet sky pixies driving around on flying carpets and rubbing tea pots for wishes gets all the credit.

a reply to: Plotus

I'm sure the end times are coming, but if we can delay it by stopping pointless wars that's good work in my book. We shouldn't have been in Syria in the first place, and we damn sure shouldn't have been helping the same terrorists who committed the 9/11 attacks try to overthrow what used to be one of the most tolerant and Western-friendly nations in the Middle East. (Don't worry; I'm sure they won't make that mistake again.)

a reply to: Forensick

The bible also talks about how in the last days fire will fall from the sky and destroy cities. Several years ago, I realized that this sounds a lot like a nuclear war, if you were attempting to describe one to a pre-industrial people.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

That would explain the George Washington vision

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: Forensick

The bible also talks about how in the last days fire will fall from the sky and destroy cities. Several years ago, I realized that this sounds a lot like a nuclear war, if you were attempting to describe one to a pre-industrial people.

Or lighting, which was around at the time.

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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
a reply to: Forensick

The bible also talks about how in the last days fire will fall from the sky and destroy cities. Several years ago, I realized that this sounds a lot like a nuclear war, if you were attempting to describe one to a pre-industrial people.

Except that it was meant to be read by us, since we are the ones living through it, why describe it for them who are not relevant? they did not need to understand it at all, just assume it was God's word and keep it alive for when the time comes

So it doesn't make sense that it was written for them and they limited knowledge when we need it more, i think what really happened is that they wrote it for themselves, using the words they had to describe what they thought would be like.

They could not imagine better and had no way to know those words would be whatever these days, because the world has seen worse

eschatology or end-time prophecies fascinate me... but the 3 rd Temple or the Red Heifer elements don't strike me as being essential/vital

next off... a lot of bad actor geo-political States are not doing as they are supposed to do...
like Turkey aligning with Russia and Iran (Persia) to take out the IS/AQ/al Nusra/others including the Kurds who have aspirations against the Syrians & Turks to ceed some of their lands for Kurdistan homeland...
Israel and the Christian dominated USA are not cooperating as 'white hats' either, they are both 'bad actors' who have funded-trained-supplied the radical Sunni-Jihadists who have long been the proxy armies of both Israeli & Amerikan intel operations


still I can't figure just whom will nuke Damascus -> Russians/Turks/Persia/USA/UK/France/Israel or else the Angelic Forces...

at one time all factors seem to be aligned to begin the End-Times era---at the drop of a hat, things change, and the doomsday clock falls back a couple minutes longer till Midnight, affording us all a little more time to do whatever it is we do
(pray-prepare-worry-fret...)

right now the big issue is "When Peace and Security is the talk-of-the-world, then suddenly destruction comes upon us" or something to that effect is the fodder of many prophecy videos on You Tube


i guess reckonizing 'end-times' is like reckonizing porn ----->> You will know It when you see It

Isaiah was wishing doom upon Israel's enemy. It doesn't mean every word he said shall come to pass.

I'll pick a major city, say something horrible is going to happen to it, and it'll happen eventually. Behold, New Orleans shall be overtaken by the sea. The fishermen shall flee from their harvest. Boom, done. Wait, that already happened and it'll happen again.

I'm sorry but his prophecy is extremely vague with little detail, made sometime in the hundreds B.C. with no reference of time in it. There's a war in Syria, Damascus is mentioned in the Old Testament alot, therefore this prophecy is the one happening right now.

It's the Gog Magog war too from Ezekiel because Gog, leading the army of Magog, had hooks in his jaw and went down to Syria with a coalition of Iran and Baathist Shiites.

And then.. TWO BILLION PEOPLE DIE

And then.. ARMAGEDDON. Everyone dies!

Nah. The major powers of the world aren't going to start WWIII or.. WWIV? You guys are getting ahead of yourselves. I know the thought of billions of people dying and mass warfare between superpowers to the death is exciting to you and will herald the Messiah but this isn't ancient Israel or even 1939 Europe. This is the modern comfortable era. No one wants to lose everything to goto war, sorry. The nukes will never fly and a century from now kids will learn about the era of the nuke after they've been replaced by some other guarantor of world peace. I know, it's boring. No big showdown where everyone dies and only the Christians get to live forever. Nothing against Christians and I'm probably more of a disciple than many of them in my works, actions, and judgement. Jesus would say anyone trying to tell others via the internet that certain prophecies are happening right now or about to is a charlatan. He might say the Devil is working through them to mislead the people and make.. wait for it.. his teachings look like a mockery. No one knows the day nor the hour. They've been believing it would be in their lifetimes and passing away without ever seeing it for two thousand years. Did the guys who told congregations and communities to get ready, it's about to happen (and never did), get punished in the afterlife for lying to innumerable people? Even false prophesying the return of the Lord himself? Ouch, of all false prophets to be.

a reply to: KansasGirl

Actually I looked over the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel 9 and figured out the problem. Let me explain it here.

Daniel 9 verses 24 through 27.

The 70 weeks are weeks of years adding up to 490 years. And they are broken up into 3 groups. 7 weeks or 49 years. Then 62 weeks or 434 years. This adds up to 483 years. Then you have the last group of 1 week or 7 years to add up to the full 490 years. Now the big debate is "Has the 70 weeks completed?" The answer is no. Why? The end of the 70th week is supposed to be the end of all of Israel's problems. Something is being overlooked. What is it? The day of Jezreel prophecy in Hosea.

In the book of Hosea is a long prophecy about Israel and Judah being subjected to a top level Leviticus 26 curse. Where the country is destroyed and the people killed or taken away as slaves. But here's the important part. In verse 6-2 of Hosea we're given the time line of the curse. 3 days in the presence of the Lord. BUT. If you read Psalms 90 and/or 2nd Peter 3-8 you would see those days are 1000 year periods of time.

Israel was to face a 2000 year top level Leviticus 26 curse before the 1000 year "day of Jezreel." The curse is still running and that means the 70th week of Daniel 9 has never happened. It's a future event.

Then the question is "What caused the curse?" And looking for it I found it in Malachi 4.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

And Matthew 17
10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come?
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.
13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

According to the books of Zechariah and Malachi the Jews were expecting 4 messiahs. Not just one. The Lord, the 2 branches of Zechariah, and Elijah the prophet. In killing John the Baptist they killed one of the Messiahs. Triggering the curse of Malachi. A 2000 year top level Leviticus 26 curse. The redemption of Israel was delayed.

Iran being in a pickle might have affected the outcome.