Palu Tsunami City of 600 000 wiped out - many bodies along the shoreline

Just to update the thread , having watched bbc news at 10 o clock , the bbc are going with a similar if not exactly the same line as noted from the guardian source on the closed thread - the claim that 300 000 people lived in Donggala and nobody has managed to reach it yet . That 300 000 people could fit into Donggala is patently untrue , while are they calling the city of Palu 'a fishing village' .

In this way we can take an estimate of 300 000

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

I've wondered if part of the lack of coverage is because they had lifted the tsunami warning for the area. Maybe they just hope the world won't notice and that fact won't be brought out.

Probably not, but this is a conspiracy website. 😜

a reply to: KansasGirl

I think the msms were waiting for official facts to catch up with reality , this now being a bit more widely reported . The bbc provide a world service so they are bound to correlate with themselves, including reporting the lifting of the warning .
Either way this has been a severe calamity and this website clamped a further thread without issuing reasonings.

It should be noted that another website's report , that Al Jazeera , has along with bbc and guardian sources , reported that Donggala , the fishing village up the coast from Palu , has/had 300 000 residents , and there no reports from there as no one has been able to reach it . Again , that that number of people lived in Dongalla is certainly untrue . What is realistically true , is that 600 000 people live in the surrounding 'funnel' area, including Donggala , and sadly (going by media reports) that
332 000 approx lived in the prone area the flat ground of Palu .

In this way we can (not safely or fairly) assume that the death toll is estimated from the ground to be about 300 000 .

Eta bbc just said that 50 000 people have been left homeless by the events and that is some positive news as these are survivors .
It is difficult to know what to say if so many souls are lost to the sea . People find it is hard to give up the personal sense of responsibility for the well being of loved ones in their manifest absence , but that is the task that must be undertaken if all the signs are that they are gone , an insurmountable obstacle at the start , causing grief . But that is an easier emotional hurdle to cross given time or proper confirmation of the circumstances . What is to be remembered is that , you were not responsible for them before that you came across them in life , thereby you must again give up responsibility in good faith to the ' greater forces' which were responsible for them , and you in the first place . And put your trust in the ongoing continuity of that oversight which allowed our lives to happen , existing before our own births and on past our deaths .

In the impersonal sense (we didn't know them) where this size of event etc , then the above still follows , but we ouryselves may feel some trauma from having witnessed the footage from the AML ship , (not broadcast by msms) and though it befits adults to know what has happened , to witness such a severity in it's fullness is not recommended for the infirm . Dealing with the facts here I'm currently at a loss to provide further content , would have to remember the #pray for palu being circulated

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Donggala is not a town but a regency. Equivalent to a county here in the US. It has an area of over 10,000 square kilometers and as of 2010 a population of 277,000.

My friend has a vid of this that shows a guy trying to warn people the tsunami is coming in.
They didn't hear him. he was screaming to run.
I saw it last nite, looks like the same vantage point as the vid that's been posted but before it hit.


The beach was wiped out and that has to be the biggest suck in the world being on the ground.

We were just in Phuket couple weeks ago and the signs of the tsunami were still there after all this time.


Prayers to all involved.

ETA; bastards stopped the tsunami warning after 30 mins and there was a beach festival with hundreds that didn't evac.

They are gone.

RIP

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

In this way we can (not safely or fairly) assume that the death toll is estimated from the ground to be about 300 000 .

Not to minimize the tragedy, but DUDE...stop making this out to be more than it is!! What's with all the drama??

There are NOT 300,000 people dead! There aren't going to be 300,000 people dead either. There aren't even 300,000 people there! Stop pushing this agenda of hundreds of "thousands" dead! Seriously!

You've been spamming this board for 2+ days now with this doom and gloom. Knock it off!

ETA - 300,000 dead would put this incident in the top 10 of all natural disasters in the history of mankind! Let's stick with the facts, okay???

a reply to: KansasGirl

The US is distracted by political drama.

It is sad that this was ignored by the mainstream media. So much loss.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Well then we have conflicting information from wiki :

At the 2010 census Palu had a population of around 336,300, not including those living in neighbouring regencies.[1] On September 28, 2018,

So those neighbouring areas are spread up the two coastlines

We have conflicting information on media , eg " Donggala , a city of 300 000" . Donggala is a fishing village according to the map .

Palu (city) : 336 300
plus
Donggala (surrounding areas on coastline) 227 000

equals 563 000 affected
, near enough 600 000 . Original reports said 'Palu' had 600 000 . Palu in fact had 336 000 as of 2010 census

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

We've had that already on this thread , and we shouldn't still be on this thread while there are updated reports . You need to check your own facts here . There is video above of Palu , the city of 336 000 , covered right over the top in water , taken from a ship which became lodged there . If you wish to confirm that for yourself , you need to check and compare the position of that AML ship against the skyline using google maps in 3d mode . Also check the overall level of the majority of Palu , and ask yourself if 6 metres (about 20 feet) of water going in and out again, covering that flat cityscape area of at least 30 km squared is enough to cause this many deaths , comparing the actual position of the residents to the reported facts .
Then come back and re-inform us of your findings

6 meters is about 20 feet.

Um.. there are news sites with pictures of the cities and survivors in the aftermath. They are not covered in water or "wiped out." You are spreading unnecessary doom porn. There are multiple stories reporting the death toll going over 400. Even if it ends up being double that, that is a far cry from your ridiculous, unsubstantiated comments.

Look up some other news sites and images - there are plenty out there.

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Since you have shown you're capable of using Wikipedia look up Donggala. It's a regency.

a reply to: fleabit

The number of recovered bodies is the current death toll , which will rise as more are recovered but many are in the sea.

We do have substantiating information , which you need to check before stating something you may need to take back later .

Here is a before /after sat image on this link which has been cropped . You are advised to do your own map research and observe the action of tsunamis

Sky news

a reply to: Xcalibur254

I did , and that is apparently correct .But see the guardian quote/ link in the closed thread linked from page 1 . They , along with other outlets expressly called Donggala" a city of 300 000 residents " which could not be reached . The google map (do check it) shows Donggala as a small fishing port . So we are agreed that Donggala is the surrounding region with 227000 residents and Palu is the city in the region which had another 336 000 residents .

On this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

this was quoted in the op :

National Disaster Mitigation Agency spokesmanSutopo Purwo Nugroho said communications had been cut both in the city of Palu, a sleepy but growing tourist resort, andthe nearby fishing town of Donggala, closest to the epicentre of the quake 80 km (50 miles) away.

The source being ndtv

bbc link

This link is entitled " Palu hit by 'worst case scenario' "

More than 1,000 people have died, but the final figure could be much higher, say officials. As scientists explained to the BBC, a combination of geography, timing and inadequate warnings meant that what happened in Palu was a worst case scenario.

Link contains map and comparative references , also links to observer sites

Indonesia tsunami: Moment quake turns ground into liquid.

Residents of Palu in Indonesia recount the moment the ground beneath their feet turned into liquid as a deadly earthquake struck their city. The tremor had triggered soil liquefaction, which shifted entire neighbourhoods.

Video: BBC.

So far, 1347 dead. Sadly, that is definitely going to rise with many bodies still to be found under rubble, mud and unreachable areas.

I'm glad the police saw sense and stopped firing tear gas at those people trying to get supplies from a store so they could get essentials (water/food), whilst also stopping those that got non-essentials (toys/toiletries).

This should be what we talk about. Not that useless policltical bull crap. Youre all being boned.

link

This link is about the volcano which has erupted on the island of Sulawesi , also contains drone footage of the aftermath at Palu - showing that the sea went all the way in - and all the way over : an extraordinary set of events .

Mount Soputan ( a stratovolcano) : thread link www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Moohide

express
Another video showing liquefaction with sound