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Do psychiatric drugs (and others) help people fall into hypnosis, trance, mind control

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posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 04:54 AM
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I'm sure everyone has seen videos of people acting oddly during hypnosis and IDK if that is done to make people think that the whole thing is just BS, by making it seem outrageous in what the person is willing to do. I have also watched some videos on actors that seem to slip in and out of "alters" during interviews or while on stage, it looks like someone flips a switch and the personality changes. I think this is linked to hypnosis and mind control.
There are so many acts of violence, some high profile, where the person seemed to be totally "out of it" like they didn't know how they got where they were or what had just happened (Aurora shooting w/ Holmes is one case).

I think there are many things that can act as a trigger for the mind control/hypnosis from sounds, and i'm guessing some of these may be VERY common sounds like the sound of a microwave timer going off, door bell, some phone tones, and a lot of others. There are probably a lot more today than there used to be, a more diverse array of "triggers".

I think that psychiatric drugs lower the "firewall" or the bodies natural defense to being hypnotized or mind controlled. I'm on the fence about illegal drugs as to whether they do the same thing and if they don't then maybe that is a strong reason for them to be outlawed, especially if it may make the "firewall" stronger.

The thing that is curious about the triggers for these mind control/hypnosis is how they can be planted and when and at what age. I think it can be done when people are children very easily but also secretly in things like movies, tv shows, songs, maybe even books/magazines

What do other people think about the reality of hypnosis and mind control. I think some people are more strongly susceptible to it and if some drugs are added, it may be possible to get a lot of control and maybe even make them forget what happened. I have a strong suspicion and paranoia about these drugs in combination with certain "psychiatric" and psychology practices especially for people who are unaware of what might be going on, and how the questions can plant certain ideas and feelings and possible even give them intentions based upon these feelings and ideas - if their guard is down and are highly susceptible.

I'm interested in thoughts and opinions on this topic and especially what you think illegal drugs do like cannabis/hashish, opiates/opium, coc aine, '___', ecstasy, PCP & Meth. I don't have experience with much of these except one that was prescribed for surgery before, so if anyone can say whether they think these would put people in a more suggestible state, or less suggestible state, I'd be interested.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:12 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Many psychiatric drugs are prescribed after people think they are victims to mind control. It's a dangerous topic because at the height of psychosis there is a certain paranoia and mistrusting your doctor can make therapy next to impossible.
But in cases like the Aurora shooting certain medication can and will make people more aggressive towards themselves and others and there is much too often a too laissez-faire control from professionals.

Street drugs all act differently some tune down brain activity and making the consumer more focussed on his inner world, so I'd guess they become less open for outside stimulis, or triggers.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:39 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Many psychiatric drugs are prescribed after people think they are victims to mind control. It's a dangerous topic because at the height of psychosis there is a certain paranoia and mistrusting your doctor can make therapy next to impossible.
But in cases like the Aurora shooting certain medication can and will make people more aggressive towards themselves and others and there is much too often a too laissez-faire control from professionals.

Street drugs all act differently some tune down brain activity and making the consumer more focussed on his inner world, so I'd guess they become less open for outside stimulis, or triggers.


Do you think that may be the reason why they outlaw some of these drugs? I'm willing to bet if they lowered the person's guard then they would be more willing to classify them as CII instead of CI (meaning they have a medical use and would be prescribed for some things and they wouldn't have as much or a prison sentence for possession).



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 05:40 AM
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Some psychiatric drugs gives the taker the sense of artificial confidence in life, but many times those that take these types of drugs do not feel they are not living in the real world. (they can't feel reality like a normal person)
Some drugs make them thought miles away in the brain, the thoughts still exist, but a wall is blocking them thoughts.
I believe some doctors may call this "the wall of truth".



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 06:33 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

No I think the reason why many of these drugs are outlawed is because they're hallucinogenic



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 06:47 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Don’t tell anyone I told you this, but any and all drugs be them legal or not can all be used in such a manner. And the majority of the time they are even if it isn’t the gubment.
Take SSRI’s for example. They can be used very easily for “mind control” as they can make other bend their own will to another without the person on them really realizing they are doing so.
Then there are other pharmaceutical drugs that can have you make rash decisions depending on your personality type. IMHO those ones are safer dependent on the situation.

In my humble opinion I believe any and all drugs are BAD. Except red wine.
Pharmaceutical drugs and companies are like the “Achilles heal” of our future. Messing with the mind is no laughing matter.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Peeple

No I think the reason why many of these drugs are outlawed is because they're hallucinogenic


The majority of drugs out can cause hallucinations.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 06:52 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Peeple

No I think the reason why many of these drugs are outlawed is because they're hallucinogenic


Not really, it's that they can cause severe effects, like depersonalisation and psychosis.

Reason being is that are indeed modelled on hallucinogenic. The reason they stopped working with lysergic acid is because it gave the taker an immediate and profound sense of well being. It caused an influx of serotonin and dopamine, and with the ergoline compound effects, a state of intense yet introspective pleasurable disassociation.

So they knew serotonin and dopamine played a large part in it, and in stead of causing an influx of these neurotransmitters, devised a manner by which they would build up, by way of reuptake inhibition.

But once the few weeks or month has passed and they begin to have noticed effects, for a lot of people it is similar to tripping, but without the synergistic pleasurable disassociation, leaving the unpleasant side effects more pronounced... the listed side effects on the leaflet inside the packet of zoloft, prozac, etc...

And not for 12 hours, with the afterglow of a well planned experience that gives you time to digest the experience, but for months if not years, with terrible consequences if they suddenly stop. Downregulated receptors don't appreciate being suddenly told "Right, we're done here, back over to you!"

Big pharma can't have people feeling good, they would never profit... but tie them to the front door, and they can never leave.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 06:58 AM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
Messing with the mind is no laughing matter.


Neurotransmitters should be softly stroked to cause them to become excited. Big pharma hits them with a hammer...

Natural healing 'drugs' are like the wind softly caressing a flower to release it's pollen.

Big pharma is the hand of man, crushing the flower to cause an overall effect.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: Parishna

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
Messing with the mind is no laughing matter.


Neurotransmitters should be softly stroked to cause them to become excited. Big pharma hits them with a hammer...

Natural healing 'drugs' are like the wind softly caressing a flower to release it's pollen.

Big pharma is the hand of man, crushing the flower to cause an overall effect.


WOW

That was beautiful but also scary.

Unfortunately that is the plan with big pharma. Bring the “hammer” down and profits will most certainly ensue.

BTW great thread



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

But I also think alcohol is a great drug for mind control, with the nice long-term side effect that people using it are getting dumber.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 08:11 AM
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Its a limiter. It limits how much you use your brain to an extent. You cant go too high or too low.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

hi..just an "to add" here...it can happen w these types of drugs.

ex's- Hypnotics-Qualudes, GHB-"date rape" drug, Benzodiapines-Valium etc.., Ambien..for sleep...

All the above can make you trace-like, often w/out memory of what was happening after taking them..

MS
EMT



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: DigginFoTroof

Much of what's been said here is true to some extent, more for some drugs than others and for some people than others. Another reason some are regulated is potentially dangerous side effects and interactions, also the fact that every drug is not appropriate treatment for all conditions.

There actually is a class of drugs called hypnotics. These are sleeping pill type sedatives. I don't know how much they really facilitate hypnosis. I've taken a few of them but never tried using them to hypnotize someone else.

One drug stands out, however, and that is scopolamine. In Brazil it is used to rob people. It's said to render the victim so suggestible, they will obey you, give you anything you want, and then they wake up later with no memory of the event.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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I wonder how much of the depersonalization and psychosis that comes from using the drugs is actually from the drugs or from the primary condition (be it psychiatric - like a genetic thing - or just from life experiences and having profound realizations that crush your reality) for which the drugs are being used to treat or mask - and when they come off of these, the depersonalization, psychosis and detachment becomes profound b/c it hasn't been handled and the person is coming back to their 'base' line from which was the reason for self medication or doctor prescribed treatment. It has just progressed with time so coming off the drugs make is look like it's the drugs fault.



posted on Sep, 20 2018 @ 01:02 PM
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Ive taken several medications. Never felt hypnotized just got bad neck twitches which broke my spine a little. Its a nightmare living with voices. Theds helped a little but voices got through. Because voices are from radio frequencies and other high tech secret implants or nanos. The med companies know this and design the meds to activate sensors in the asaughagial tract and stomach area. Ive detected locations by a set of special techniques i employ.



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