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Is Pope Francis Delegitimizing Accusers Of Clerical Sex Abuse By Calling Them Allies Of Satan?

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posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 07:53 PM
a reply to: shawmanfromny

With all due respect to your loss of faith, unless the catholic god abused the children personally, this is a problem with the church not with its deity.
edit on 11-4-2019 by Gogmagog because: (no reason given)

posted on Apr, 12 2019 @ 01:50 PM

posted on May, 11 2019 @ 06:08 AM
The biggest problem of pope Francis is Not that he calls the conservatives whatever. It is that his reform drags feet.

While the conservatives accuse him in a number of theological questions, the general public tends to believe he is the great reformer. And what so much was reformed for the last 6 years? Good words, yes, but nothing on the table for the everyday catholics or for anyone. What changed to better in real terms?

Is it therefore that he just buys time, infront of event(s) that he and his closest associates know they come upon humankind?

Let remember what John Paul II said in Fulda about Fatima:
The October 1981 issue of the German magazine Stimme des Glaubens reported on a discussion that Pope John Paul II had with a select group of German Catholics, in November of 1980. (other sources say,with the German bishops).

The Holy Father was asked, “What about the Third Secret of Fatima? Should it not have already been published by 1960?”

Pope John Paul II replied: “Given the seriousness of the contents, my predecessors in the Petrine office diplomatically preferred to postpone publication so as not to encourage the world power of Communism to make certain moves.

“On the other hand, it should be sufficient for all Christians to know this: if there is a message in which it is written that the oceans will flood whole areas of the earth, and that from one moment to the next millions of people will perish, truly the publication of such a message is no longer something to be so much desired.”

The Pope continued: “Many wish to know simply from curiosity and a taste for the sensational, but they forget that knowledge also implies responsibility. They only seek the satisfaction of their curiosity, and that is dangerous if at the same time they are not disposed to do something, and if they are convinced that it is impossible to do anything against evil.”

At this point the Pope grasped a Rosary and said: “Here is the remedy against this evil. Pray, pray, and ask for nothing more. Leave everything else to the Mother of God.”

The Holy Father was then asked: “What is going to happen to the Church?”

He answered: “We must prepare ourselves to suffer great trials before long, such as will demand of us a disposition to give up even life, and a total dedication to Christ and for Christ… With your and my prayer it is possible to mitigate this tribulation, but it is no longer possible to avert it, because only thus can the Church be effectively renewed. How many times has the renewal of the Church sprung from blood! This time, too, it will not be otherwise. We must be strong and prepared, and trust in Christ and His Mother, and be very, very assiduous in praying the Rosary.”

With all respect to John Paul II, the above interview shows how much the Vatican knows and how little it is willing to share with the common people.

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posted on May, 31 2019 @ 10:42 AM
The catholic church is a problem as an institution. While we can debate religion all day, we can all agree that the catholic church has weaponized its followers and power and is far to powerful in modern events. Alot of catholics say that the pope and the church are the morals in which guide countries, yet they cant even guide their clergy. I am an avid enemy of the catholic church. Not Christianity, but the church itself

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