Manafort Pleads Guilty and Will Cooperate With Muller

Ohh nooo

Jesus had the 12 apostles
Tump has the 12 crooks
- new emojï for head shaking -

Who is Judas ?
Manafort

a reply to: neo96

Goodness. Somebody needs to get up to date with a subject before spewing. Plea deal is for the second trail on another set of charges all together. However, remember that Manafort has not been sentenced yet from the recent guilty verdicts in Virginia. Prosecutors can now recommend to the sentencing Judge whatever they want. He will get less than 7 years for all the charges and go home after 3 years and still be a millionaire.

originally posted by: Grambler
CNN (bleck) reporting Obama white house counsel Greg Craig may also be indicted.

Federal prosecutors in New York are considering criminal charges against Greg Craig, a former Obama White House counsel, as part of a investigation into whether he failed to register as a foreign agent, sources told CNN Friday.

The charges are linked to a probe into Paul Manafort, the former campaign chairman to President Trump, CNN reported, citing people familiar with the matter.

thehill.com...

Lets hope his home is raided in the middle of the night and his finances from decades back are gone into, and if any crimes are found he too is threatened with a huge prison sentence.

Certainly hope so.

He was the Senior Partner that led the project at Skadden where Manafort and Alex van der Zwaan (both pleaded guilty) conspired to lock up a Ukrainian woman politician on trumped up fake charges in 2012.

Before that he was a (as in one of many) lawyer in the Obama WH from Jan. 09 to Jan 2010.

Without a time machine, not sure how you might implicate Pres. Obama with this, but I am sure the concept of time itself wont stop you from trying

Former Obama lawyer Greg Craig leaves firm after brush with Mueller probe

Craig supervised Alex van der Zwaan, who has pleaded guilty to lying about communications regarding his work for Ukrainian politicians.
www.nbcnews.com...

THIS IS THE WOMAN MANFORT WAS PAID TO IMPRISON

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: DJMSN


And the Oval Office is used for tweeting now, and not dilly dilly

More than likely with Trump it is used for both and much worse.

a reply to: DJMSN

Somebody needs to get up to date with a subject before spewin

Sure do.

Because Manafort did nothing different than the Posdesta's and yet nothing but crickets.

originally posted by: neo96

Manafort, 69, pleaded guilty to participating in a conspiracy against the United States — involving money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports, violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, and lying and misrepresenting to the Department of Justice.

The only charges that can be filed are federal.

New York isn't the GD federal government.

Neo, I think you - we - all of us are going to have to accept the fact that Mueller, who is an attorney, and his staff of attorney's sent the investigation to NY, and it was investigated, and now those attorney's in the NY DA's office have accepted the case for prosecution.

I would think one of them would have noticed double jeopardy if it was a factor.

a reply to: angeldoll

Yeah, it’s a good bet someone made Manafort aware that he could be looking at state charges too.
That may even have played into his final calculus if he was holding out for a pardon.
Moreover, a pardon wouldn’t exempt him from having to testify if called to do so.
Trump cherishes loyalty, but he sure doesn’t show any.
Hence, Manafort decided to squeal for a deal...

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: angeldoll

Yeah, it’s a good bet someone made Manafort aware that he could be looking at state charges too.
That may even have played into his final calculus if he was holding out for a pardon.
Moreover, a pardon wouldn’t exempt him from having to testify if called to do so.
Trump cherishes loyalty, but he sure doesn’t show any.
Hence, Manafort decided to squeal for a deal...

The state of new york has a statute of limitations of 5 yrs for the charges. That time has passed.

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: angeldoll

Yeah, it’s a good bet someone made Manafort aware that he could be looking at state charges too.
That may even have played into his final calculus if he was holding out for a pardon.
Moreover, a pardon wouldn’t exempt him from having to testify if called to do so.
Trump cherishes loyalty, but he sure doesn’t show any.
Hence, Manafort decided to squeal for a deal...

The state of new york has a statute of limitations of 5 yrs for the charges. That time has passed.

This latest trial included charges that took place up through 2017.

a reply to: soberbacchus

How is trump being implicated in Manafort a crimes in 2012?

By putting pressure on him to flip on trump

Why shouldn’t the same be done to Craig to flip on obama?

The Statute of Limitations for Fraud in New York. The statute of limitations for fraud in New York is generally six years from the date a plaintiff is harmed by fraudulent conduct, or two years from the time he discovered or should have discovered the fraud. There are some exceptions to these limits. The Statute of Limitations for Fraud in New York | Legalbeagle.com legalbeagle.com...

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: soberbacchus

How is trump being implicated in Manafort a crimes in 2012?

By putting pressure on him to flip on trump

Why shouldn’t the same be done to Craig to flip on obama?

Sure. If there is some Obama era crime that falls under Speial Counsel Mandate, have at it.

Again you might need a team and a Doctor Who phone booth.

originally posted by: Gandalf77

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: Gandalf77
a reply to: angeldoll

Yeah, it’s a good bet someone made Manafort aware that he could be looking at state charges too.
That may even have played into his final calculus if he was holding out for a pardon.
Moreover, a pardon wouldn’t exempt him from having to testify if called to do so.
Trump cherishes loyalty, but he sure doesn’t show any.
Hence, Manafort decided to squeal for a deal...

The state of new york has a statute of limitations of 5 yrs for the charges. That time has passed.

This latest trial included charges that took place up through 2017.

Were they part of the 8 counts that the jury decided on? yes

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: soberbacchus

How is trump being implicated in Manafort a crimes in 2012?

By putting pressure on him to flip on trump

Why shouldn’t the same be done to Craig to flip on obama?

Sure. If there is some Obama era crime that falls under Speial Counsel Mandate, have at it.

Again you might need a team and a Doctor Who phone booth.

I thought the mandate was Russia collusion?

Where does tax crimes going back to 2012 fit into that?

So if he can go after those unrelated crimes, why not go after obama crimes?

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: soberbacchus

How is trump being implicated in Manafort a crimes in 2012?

you meant 2015 and 2016 according to indictments


right?

Why shouldn’t the same be done to Craig to flip on obama?

If Craig has some crimes regarding President Obama that he wants to talk about, I hope he does.

Somehow I doubt he has anything to offer though.

originally posted by: Kharron

originally posted by: carewemust
Why is Obama and Biden mentioned in manaforts indictment?

www.politico.com...

Well, it's right in the link, why not quote it instead of leaving it open to speculation? Here, I'll quote your link:



It would seem, according to your source, that Manafort was working as a foreign agent and failed to register as one. Not only that but he devised a scheme to swindle a sitting President and our government, and then went to another country for backup to make it look legit.

Good description of John Kerry.

a reply to: soberbacchus

Oh you were unaware Manafort was charged with lobbying and finance crimes going back to 2012 or 2013?

He was I believe, and clearly that had nothing to do with Russia collusion in the 2016 election

I am saying Craig should be raided in the middle of the night, threatened with maximum jail time, and encouraged to flip on bigger fish

In Other words, be treated the same as Manafort and Cohen

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: soberbacchus

How is trump being implicated in Manafort a crimes in 2012?

By putting pressure on him to flip on trump

Why shouldn’t the same be done to Craig to flip on obama?

Sure. If there is some Obama era crime that falls under Speial Counsel Mandate, have at it.

Again you might need a team and a Doctor Who phone booth.

So if he can go after those unrelated crimes,

Unrelated how?

He was indebted to a Putin Oligarch and looked to cash in as Trump's Campaign Chief.

There’s his former client, the oligarch Oleg Deripaska, to whom Manafort was heavily indebted. And there’s Manafort’s longtime business associate Konstantin Kilimnik, who Mueller’s team has said is tied to Russian intelligence.

Just weeks after joining the Trump campaign, Manafort seemed to see an opportunity. He emailed Kilimnik in early April about his newly high media profile, writing, “How do we use to get whole,” and “Has OVD operation seen?” (Those are Deripaska’s initials.)

Then in July 2016, Manafort and Kilimnik exchanged emails about Deripaska again, as the Washington Post and the Atlantic reported last year. “I am carefully optimistic on the issue of our biggest interest,” Kilimnik said. “He will be most likely looking for ways to reach out to you pretty soon.” Manafort wrote that if Deripaska “needs private briefings we can accommodate.”

The pair’s emails on the topic grew vaguer and more cryptic as the summer continued. In late July, Kilimnik wrote to Manafort, “I met today with the guy who gave you your biggest black caviar jar several years ago. We spent about 5 hours talking about his story, and I have several important messages from him to you.” This, again, is believed to be about Deripaska, with “caviar” thought to be code for money.

Kilimnik and Manafort arranged a meeting in New York City to discuss the matter on August 2 — Kilimnik wrote that he had a “long caviar story” to tell and “several important messages.”

Days after the meeting, Deripaska took a yacht trip with Sergei Prikhodko, Russia’s deputy prime minister, who is focused on foreign policy. Again, all of this occurred while Manafort was chairing the Trump campaign, before his mid-August 2016 firing.

Now, this year, Kilimnik seemed keenly interested in keeping Manafort out of jail — he was indicted alongside Manafort for obstruction of justice in June, for allegedly trying to get witnesses to give a false story. Yet Kilimnik is unlikely to ever face those charges since he’s currently based in Moscow.

www.vox.com...

Manafort's charges extend through 2017, which includes the period he worked for Trump in 2016.

a reply to: soberbacchus

Ditto on your signature line!