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originally posted by: carewemust
Why is Obama and Biden mentioned in manaforts indictment?
www.politico.com...
Friday's filing also revealed intriguing details that showed Manafort's foreign lobbying campaign targeting former President Barack Obama and his vice president, Joe Biden.
According to the documents, a group of former European politicians Manafort convened as part of his lobbying effort met with Obama and Biden, “as well as senior United States officials in the executive and legislative branches,” in May 2013.
Alan Friedman, a former journalist based in Europe who proposed creating the group, dubbed the "Hapsburg Group, told Manafort that one member “delivered the message of not letting ‘Russians steal Ukraine from the West.’” The court document claimed that Manafort knew he had to disclose the meeting but failed to do so.
At the time, Manafort was working for Ukrainian Viktor Yanukovych, a pro-Russian leader who was ultimately forced from office by public protest in early 2014.
The court documents indicate that Manafort “orchestrated a scheme to have …’[O]bama jews’ put pressure on the administration” to support Yanukovych. For instance, Manafort disseminated stories that “a senior Cabinet official” who previously criticized Yanukovych “was supporting anti-Semitism." Manafort then worked with a senior Israeli government official to provide a statement spreading the story, with the hope it would force the administration to “understand that ‘the Jewish community will take this out on Obama on election day if he does nothing.'”
originally posted by: carewemust
originally posted by: Fallingdown
What is this the third or fourth time the mainstream media broke this smoking gun story?
Lather, rinse, repeat
Their rinse water is never drained and replaced either. It's getting dirtier and dirtier with each cycle.
originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: carewemust
Is Manafort running for office?
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but that’s a real stretch.
It’s still considered a WAR by most sources—the second longest US combat force participation in history.
And we’re not doing very well either, I might add.
You call that peace?
Can I sell you a bridge?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but that’s a real stretch.
It’s still considered a WAR by most sources—the second longest US combat force participation in history.
And we’re not doing very well either, I might add.
You call that peace?
Can I sell you a bridge?
It's still the most peaceful time this country has seen since 911.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but that’s a real stretch.
It’s still considered a WAR by most sources—the second longest US combat force participation in history.
And we’re not doing very well either, I might add.
You call that peace?
Can I sell you a bridge?
It's still the most peaceful time this country has seen since 911.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but that’s a real stretch.
It’s still considered a WAR by most sources—the second longest US combat force participation in history.
And we’re not doing very well either, I might add.
You call that peace?
Can I sell you a bridge?
It's still the most peaceful time this country has seen since 911.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but that’s a real stretch.
It’s still considered a WAR by most sources—the second longest US combat force participation in history.
And we’re not doing very well either, I might add.
You call that peace?
Can I sell you a bridge?
It's still the most peaceful time this country has seen since 911.
Well make up your mind dude. Is it the most peaceful time since 911 or the last 2 decades?
And you’re still stretching.
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but ever since we sent "advisors" to Viet Nam no one is allowed to try and sell that BS.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but ever since we sent "advisors" to Viet Nam no one is allowed to try and sell that BS.
That was before the Vietnam war, this is happening after the primary war fighting has ceased, huge difference.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but ever since we sent "advisors" to Viet Nam no one is allowed to try and sell that BS.
That was before the Vietnam war, this is happening after the primary war fighting has ceased, huge difference.
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: soberbacchus
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Gandalf77
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer
Dispute any of the points with facts. We're paying less in taxes, aren't presently involved in any wars for the first time in decades, witnessing a tremendous economy and job market, defending our borders, and holding traditional Americanism above progressive globalist garbage. Aside from my SCOTUS comment, can you actually say any of that isn't accurate?
What do you call Afghanistan? A friendly disagreement?
We have troops there working on training Afghan security details and personnel. It is the definition of a peacekeeping mission, not a war at this point.
Sorry, but ever since we sent "advisors" to Viet Nam no one is allowed to try and sell that BS.
That was before the Vietnam war, this is happening after the primary war fighting has ceased, huge difference.
Right, cuz Trump Doesn't have trainers and advisors in Syria?