Coal ash the new chemtrail additive...or so this says.

a reply to: howtonhawky


Something is indeed not adding up. Over how many years did you attend full time education?

Wiki: Clouds

Some clouds consist of ice crystals. Very small ones. Clouds do not fall from the sky like that, do they?

Contrails are basically clouds.

You may also be surprised at how much clouds weigh:

BBC: How do you weigh a cloud?

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: howtonhawky


Something is indeed not adding up. Over how many years did you attend full time education?

Wiki: Clouds

Some clouds consist of ice crystals. Very small ones. Clouds do not fall from the sky like that, do they?

Contrails are basically clouds.

Oh yes

My education level has to be the answer to the chemtrail debate.

The answer is yes clouds do indeed fall from the sky. Many call it precipitation.

You know what does not fall from the sky in the same manner?

oils and such

That is why we see smoke sometimes cause water and oil do not mix well.

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There are rumors floating about the internet that the chemtrails are part of
some sort of secret program the government is doing to protect the US from
future biological attacks. Nothing could be further from the truth. The plan
is to sensitize, or condition, the US population to being wiped out by
influenza A. Over the past few years, people have been encouraged to get flu
shots to protect them against the generally non-lethal strains that
circulate through the population during flu season.

Each year the US government has guessed which strains were most likely to
spread. They seem to always guess right - don't they? This flu season, the
government protected people with a trivalent vaccine that included the
A/Beijing/262/95-like (H1N1) and the A/Sydney/5/97-like (H3N2). It also
contained the B/Beijing/184/93-like hemagglutinin antigens. For those not
familiar with virology, the H and N refer to proteins on the outside of the
virus, the hemagglutinin and neuraminidase, which are responsible for the
virus attaching to, and then invading, a host cell. The public has been
quite pleased with the success of the vaccines offered so far. But that will
change in the future.

Researchers at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious
Diseases (or USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick in Frederick MD have reconstructed
and modified the H1N1 Spanish Flu virus, making it far more deadly than it
ever was back when it was responsible for the 1918-1919 flu pandemic that
killed over 20 million worldwide and over 500,000 here in the US. Consider
that it could have killed many more, but back then, people couldn't hop on a
jet and travel from New York to L.A. in five hours. Now, our ability to
travel will increase the spread and will be our downfall.

The flu vaccines contain killed virus and protect the body well against
challenge by that particular strain, but work poorly against other strains
not included in the inoculation. At some point, the vaccine stockpile will
include the more lethal modification of the 1918 H1N1 in its live form. Most
people receiving this vaccine will simply be renewing their annual flu shot,
and the vaccine will still include the inactivated version of the more
benign form of H1N1 (as was included in this year's vaccine). The presence
of the milder strain in the inoculum will slow down the progression of the
more lethal H1N1 form, so people will become sick more slowly - but they
will still eventually die. It will just take a few weeks longer.

a reply to: howtonhawky


You need to educate yourself about "Precipitation". Here is a handy start for you:

Precipitation Explained

What is your point about oils?

a reply to: JimNasium


Yes, there are indeed all sorts of rumours floating about the internet but, here's the thing - not all of them are true.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: howtonhawky


You need to educate yourself about "Precipitation". Here is a handy start for you:

Precipitation Explained

What is your point about oils?

Don't need your education or your thought control.

If you did not get the point the first time what makes you think you will get it the second time?

All i have done is ask questions and all i get is your dumb and educate yourself but yall still dance around the main point i was making as to why these contrails are not being recreated in some form.

There was a simple answer but some are so educated they missed it.

contrailscience.com...

a reply to: howtonhawky


But you had your answer from Zaphod a while back - contrails form at -70. Does rather answer your question, does it not?

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: howtonhawky

www.nasa.gov...
This is a real chemtrail. It's the only example I know of other than calling everything that emits water vapor a "chem trail" since H2O is a chemical. But in reality, what the folks who argue for this call "chemtrails" are contrails that persist.

If they ever wanted to know the truth, they would test them in air. They don't, too much money to be made from speeches and selling fear to the ignorant. Does Dane Wiggington have a real job? if not, how does he pay for his large Mt. Shasta estate? inquiring minds don't GAF.

Everything you say has some truth in it but you fail to admit my point that contrails and chemtrails bot have exhaust in them and is made up of many pollutants. fact

Now perhaps instead of spending so much time arguing over the subtle details people could just say contrived trails or something to denote the covert operations they do or do not believe.


Surely you all are not trying to claim that jets do not pollute? That is exactly what you say if you say chemtrails do not exist.

yes, Jets pollute like buses, trucks, cars, cranes, generators, anything using fuel for combustion. But the visible trail you may see, is water vapor. The nasty stuff is not seen and exists from engine start to engine stop. Even present when the GTC runs.

That visible stuff in a condensation trail is water vapor mixed with exhaust.

I do wonder why this concept is so hard to admit for the masses cause it has nothing to do with other sinister plans to add even more pollutants into the atmosphere.

Now perhaps the experts can tell us why cars do not produce such condensation trails cause even in denver(high altitude) it does not happen.

I think that is what people keep going on about.

LOL, your ignorance is showing. If you can drive your car through an area of super saturated air, where the temp is about -50f, then I'd wager a contrail is an obtainable goal. Why don't you see contrails on the ground? Planes taxi don't they?

Don't be a derp.

a reply to: howtonhawky


Is that not what folk have been trying to tell you?

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: howtonhawky


But you had your answer from Zaphod a while back - contrails form at -70. Does rather answer your question, does it not?

It was not true completely.

Since the claim was -70 i sensed some info did not fit.

Technically he was correct but -70 is not the temperature at which trails can begin to appear. It is much higher.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: howtonhawky


Is that not what folk have been trying to tell you?

What

Please be more clear.

Pictures are worth a thousand dumb words.

Take a look at my original inquiry.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: howtonhawky

www.nasa.gov...
This is a real chemtrail. It's the only example I know of other than calling everything that emits water vapor a "chem trail" since H2O is a chemical. But in reality, what the folks who argue for this call "chemtrails" are contrails that persist.

If they ever wanted to know the truth, they would test them in air. They don't, too much money to be made from speeches and selling fear to the ignorant. Does Dane Wiggington have a real job? if not, how does he pay for his large Mt. Shasta estate? inquiring minds don't GAF.

Everything you say has some truth in it but you fail to admit my point that contrails and chemtrails bot have exhaust in them and is made up of many pollutants. fact

Now perhaps instead of spending so much time arguing over the subtle details people could just say contrived trails or something to denote the covert operations they do or do not believe.


Surely you all are not trying to claim that jets do not pollute? That is exactly what you say if you say chemtrails do not exist.

yes, Jets pollute like buses, trucks, cars, cranes, generators, anything using fuel for combustion. But the visible trail you may see, is water vapor. The nasty stuff is not seen and exists from engine start to engine stop. Even present when the GTC runs.

That visible stuff in a condensation trail is water vapor mixed with exhaust.

I do wonder why this concept is so hard to admit for the masses cause it has nothing to do with other sinister plans to add even more pollutants into the atmosphere.

Now perhaps the experts can tell us why cars do not produce such condensation trails cause even in denver(high altitude) it does not happen.

I think that is what people keep going on about.

LOL, your ignorance is showing. If you can drive your car through an area of super saturated air, where the temp is about -50f, then I'd wager a contrail is an obtainable goal. Why don't you see contrails on the ground? Planes taxi don't they?

Don't be a derp.

you would wager?

You ask a series of questions then resort to name calling while trying to avoid sensors.

You should not take it so personal.

I was simply wondering about ground level contrails.

fun fact

And since water vapor is itself a greenhouse gas, the increase in humidity amplifies the warming from carbon dioxide." Specifically, the team found that if Earth warms 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, the associated increase in water vapor will trap an extra 2 Watts of energy per square meter (about 11 square feet).Nov 17, 2008 NASA - Water Vapor Confirmed as Major Player in Climate Change www.nasa.gov...

Even if you all can not admit it i have made you all a bit smarted.

The next time someone ask about contrails at ground level you will be able to say that they occour frequently when the conditions are correct.




thank me later

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Even if you all can not admit it i have made you all a bit smarted.

The next time someone ask about contrails at ground level you will be able to say that they occour frequently when the conditions are correct.

thank me later

And in a single thread, you have educated yourself enough to realize that the chemtrail fantasy is just that. Congrats.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: howtonhawky
Even if you all can not admit it i have made you all a bit smarted.

The next time someone ask about contrails at ground level you will be able to say that they occour frequently when the conditions are correct.

thank me later

And in a single thread, you have educated yourself enough to realize that the chemtrail fantasy is just that. Congrats.

Show the proof that no covert programs exist that add unnecessary chemicals to exhaust or the atmosphere.

That is why the debate continues and i have said that from the start.

The only thing we proved is ground level condensation trails from exhaust and that chemtrail can refer to exhaust or covert operations.

a reply to: howtonhawky

FFS - show me the edvidence that " chemicals are covertly added "

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: howtonhawky

FFS - show me the edvidence that " chemicals are covertly added "

I also asked that in the opposite direction.

That is why it is discussed on conspiracy sites.

a reply to: howtonhawky

your sohpistry is noted

show me the evidence that unicorn piss is not sprayed from planes - for " reasons "