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Britian Blaming Novichok Agaisnt Russia/Putin for Political Distraction at Home.

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posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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I find this so called new evidence of the identified two men with Russian passports who arrived in London from Moscow on March 2, went to Salisbury on March 3 on a 'reconnaissance' trip, came back to Salisbury on March 4 to put Novichok poison on the doorknob of Skripal's home and flew back from London to Moscow on the same day. The names of the men were given as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov rather suspicious. And highly timed.Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov dont sound very Russian in nature they might sound Russian but in general Russian last names are much complex.

Not to mention "Petrov" sounds more Bulgarian then Russian. What bothers me the most is that if the incident was a professional assassination attempt with a highly potent 'Novichok' compound why did 4 out of 5 people who came into contact with it survived?



British Media Quiet whereabouts of Yulia Skripal
Lets not also forget that the British gov and British Mainstream Media outlets are still holding Yulia Skripal the daughter of Skripal as a hostage, not allowing her to make outside contacts with anyone of her family members.

I am pretty certain the British News Media outlets are aware of the location and where the Gov is holding Yulia Skripal but they aren't allowed to report on Yulia anymore. For whatever reason they seem to be have given a flag on not to report on Yulia Skripal. This an
other exmaple onto why we should be cautious when the British government accusing other based on loosely and rushed evidence.

This whole blaming Novichok Against Russia is nothing more then a Political Distraction for the tores seeing how the talks of brexit are becoming a failure and wanting to protect the Sunni Jihadists in Syria's idlib.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox




The names of the men were given as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov rather suspicious. And highly timed.Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov dont sound very Russian in nature they might sound Russian but in general Russian last names are much complexThe names of the men were given as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov rather suspicious. And highly timed.Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov dont sound very Russian in nature they might sound Russian but in general Russian last names are much complex


You do know that they where using false names don't you?



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

And you know they are Russians because the mainstream news media told you so?



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox


What proof do you HAVE that they are not Russian?

Put up or shut up.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong


What proof do you HAVE that they are not Russian?

You are believing the same country that lied about the Libyan rebels which the British government claimed they were moderates but in reality they weren't.

You are believing the same war criminals that lied about Saddam's wmds. But hey you don't have any proof either do you now? or is your only evidence that you saw on that trash TV box?



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Britain/America/France wouldn't be blaming Russia if they had their way in Syria. That is a 100% certain. This is all related to Syria as well.

Britain will do anything to gain approval from the public in order to hit back at Russia, for Russia whom just prevented the rise and take of Jihadists in Syria.


If you aren't seeing the dots well i am sorry then cant help ya. But hey continue believing the same MSM that keeps lying to sheeps like you.
edit on 6-9-2018 by ChefFox because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

By the way on the headlines in the news.

BBC: “World leaders back UK Novichok allegations”


don't forget these are the same World Leaders that want the Jihadists in Syria to win. They would follow America to wars no matter what evidence they have whatever faked or not.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox


Should I say welcome to ATS?

New member......

New thread......

Stirring up a conspiracy ???



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 05:43 PM
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Two Russian assassins take a commercial flight from Moscow to London using Russian passports with fake Russian names carrying a highly toxic poison which gets past customs. The poison has a "definite Russian signature." They scope out the target's house that day, put the poison on a doorknob the next day, and then fly back to Moscow.

Throw in a moose and a flying squirrel and you've got an animated movie.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: VictorVonDoom
Unicorns, you forgot the unicorns...



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox

Well let's be honest here, the WMD story was American intelligence. It was a lie pushed by the US government (gonna say US but mean government of the time) and then Tony Blair, who decided to keep going with the lack of evidence and completely made up evidence to push for war and used his apparent ability to talk people into doing things that took us into war. So yeah lets lay blame where it should first.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox

With respect I don't see why they would make it up. They've been screwing up Brexit (Which I voted for) for a long time now so if they were to blame anyone they would've done it back then. If you mean to say that they killed people and pointed the finger to Russia I just don't buy it. Hell if I were to do something like that I wouldn't blame Russia but let conspiracies run wild about an EU member state plot to bring up fear in the UK of being under attack by some dark evil country and then say that we'd only be safe in the EU.

I just honestly cannot understand why you would think that they made it up.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:32 PM
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a reply to: ChefFox

Most nerve agents are generally deployed as a gas. This is then inhaled and reaches the blood stream by permeating the mucous membrane of the lungs. From there the blood carries it to the brain she or begins to have an effect. All of this happens over the course of 30 seconds at most.

In this case however the agent was deployed in such a way that it would have to penetrate the layers of the victim's skin before reaching the blood stream. This can take up to an hour.

The faster a drug can reach the brain the more profound an effect it will have immediately. For example, smoking a cigarette has a much more profound and immediate effect than slapping on a nicotine patch.

That's one reason why this agent may not have been as deadly as one might expect. It also means that medical personnel had more time to administer treatment before the Novichok reached its max potency. Something that greatly improves a victim's chances of survival.



posted on Sep, 6 2018 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: VictorVonDoom
Two Russian assassins take a commercial flight from Moscow to London using Russian passports with fake Russian names carrying a highly toxic poison which gets past customs. The poison has a "definite Russian signature." They scope out the target's house that day, put the poison on a doorknob the next day, and then fly back to Moscow.

Throw in a moose and a flying squirrel and you've got an animated movie.

And somehow this deadly alleged gas doesn't seem to have an affect on the hotel nor the hotel guests where the so called agents have stayed ugh? yeah sure.

Oh and i have seen some images where people were laughing at the police in chemical bio suits.



Something sure stinks with this.



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 02:50 AM
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originally posted by: ChefFox
British Media Quiet whereabouts of Yulia Skripal
Lets not also forget that the British gov and British Mainstream Media outlets are still holding Yulia Skripal the daughter of Skripal as a hostage, not allowing her to make outside contacts with anyone of her family members.


? Where did you get that from then? The Skripal's probably just want to be left alone. Oh, I know the Russian's are propagating the narrative that they "must" be being held against their will because they don't want to see any Russian officials, but why would they want to see some Russian official? What would a Russian official be able to do for them? Plus, what would be the benefit of the press hounding them?

It's a leap of faith to think that the UK somehow contrived this atrocity as a way to divert attention from Syria. Most people don't give a toss about Syria and the UKs involvement has been modest, but mostly focussed on ISIS in Iraq where ISIS has been defeated. As to Brexit - if it's been an attempt to distract, then it's failed. Brexit continues and the media have been reporting at 100%.

I would suggest that the whole OP is a distraction and a fantasy. Russia are known for the propaganda approach of "deny, distract and blame". They are known to do this by flooding out the internet with trolls. Just saying.
edit on 7/9/2018 by paraphi because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: ChefFox

And somehow this deadly alleged gas doesn't seem to have an affect on the hotel nor the hotel guests where the so called agents have stayed ugh? yeah sure.



Well if it didnt have an effect on the agents themselves, why would it have

an effect on anyone else?

Because the agents were targeting who to poison, which proves it was a

deliberate attack on two Russians living peacefully in the UK.




Oh and i have seen some images where people were laughing at the police in chemical bio suits.




And what has that to do with anything? People can't laugh now without

being suspicious!!!




Something sure stinks with this.



YES ....... Your pathetic story line.



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 03:20 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

Be fair. It's a living.



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 03:25 AM
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a reply to: ChefFox

All of the issues you mention here have been addressed in other threads you have posted in.
You have refused to answer any questions that have been directed at you.
You have refused to offer any sort of evidence or reasoning to support your accusations.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Your sole purpose on ATS seems to be to spread disinformation and spew out Russian biased rhetoric without offering anything of value and substance.

I've seen literally hundreds of members like you come and go.
I have the utmost respect for members with different views to me but who offer at least some sort of reasoning and critical thinking.
You seem completely devoid of any of those attributes and I really don't see what you bring to the party.

Please, please try and prove me wrong.



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 03:32 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

His message is simple: the West is corrupt, the media are lying to you, and Mother Russia is the Savior of the World. There is no need for evidence; it is literally a religious creed called Eurasianism.



posted on Sep, 7 2018 @ 03:34 AM
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a reply to: ChefFox


Good Morning.

How is the weather in St Petersburg?




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