80,000 paedophiles present online threat to UK children

a reply to: crayzeed
I agree this is part of a plan that has been in the works for very long time.

I also agree we should place our attention in those directions that they are leading us away from.

PS. it's the same as why the argument not to bring hanging back. How many innocent people will suffer through vigilante action. Don't rely on the courts, just hearsay evidence will do, throw them off that cliff. A man living on his own, he's got to be a peado, throw him off the cliff.
That icecream man looks like one and he's talking to kids all day, throw him off the cliff. Salem aint dead. Cos you've all got your pitchforks out already.
Now that aint condoning peados but you will all cry "he must be a peado". NO I'm trying to bring a bit of intelligence to the post instead of just "hang em" "kill em" attitude.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

For me it is hard to verbalize without sounding homophobic or whatever. I have nothing against gay folks, but don't force me to normalize it. My wife was watching Versaille and I looked up from the puter to see two dudes going at it. I shouted WTF...! But I don't push my views...they are just my views.

And then there is the on-line mess. There are 2 suicide games targeting kids going on right now....Momo and Blue Whale. It It just feels like an assault on how I was raised and I just don't like it I guess. Don't even get me started on these reality shows which are causing a wave of body dysmorphia on kids.

nypost.com...

a reply to: crayzeed

You can't show porn on regular TV. That hasn't hurt anyone. You can't smoke on TV either. You cannot curse or do certain things on public radio stations.

One can surely police the net without infringing on peoples rights.

a reply to: crayzeed

Nobody here is seriously advocating that. The government, judicial, and law enforcement people are not doing anything tangible to really get a grip on this scourge of subhumans who like to abuse children. Who wouldn't be "triggered" by that.

Not only that, but companies like Google and Facebook refuse to police themselves of this sort of material. It is a criminal offense, yet they still refuse to do something. They are facilitating it.

a reply to: lakenheath24

That's probably because it's Scottish, predominantly Glaswegian, quite hard to understand at the best of times unless you hail from the place really. LoL

a reply to: lakenheath24

I don't mind dudes doing it if it is after the same watershed TV time as straight sex. I don't know about the suicide games so can't really comment, I'm just lucky my parenting non adults is over now, I just have a laugh as dad, my son could pick me up and throw me to the floor these days lol.
Reality TV though, yeh I get ya, I know my own TV star who is fake as #, I posted a thread about it, I can't stand the bint.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: lakenheath24
But that's the whole point, they can't police the net without infringing someone's right. It's the start of the slippery slope. As I said they are using this emotive subject (as I put with all the replies) to bring in controls. Now that's alright on its own but it WILL lead to a creeping censorship, OK peadophilia it beyong the pale, but who decides what you can and cannot watch.
This is the form of control they want and using this emotive subject you become blind to the backroom maneuvers.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: lakenheath24
But that's the whole point, they can't police the net without infringing someone's right. It's the start of the slippery slope.

Did you know who loves child porn? I think you might already know this, but I hope you're not the only one.

The copyright lobby absolutely loves child pornography

"Child pornography is great," the man said enthusiastically. "Politicians do not understand file sharing, but they understand child pornography, and they want to filter that to score points with the public. Once we get them to filter child pornography, we can get them to extend the block to file sharing."

The date was May 27, 2007, and the man was Johan Schlüter, head of the Danish Anti-Piracy Group (Antipiratgruppen). He was speaking in front of an audience from which the press had been banned; it was assumed to be copyright industry insiders only. It wasn’t. Christian Engström, who’s now a Member of the European Parliament, Oscar Swartz, and I were also there.

I don't think the rest of us should have our freedoms taken away in the pursuit of some evildoers, but the copyright lobby would like that to happen.

a reply to: Arbitrageur
Listen very carefully I will say this only once. The authorities KNOW who these people are so why are they not arresting them now. The do not need to change anything, they know. Why aren't they acting on the information they've got?
Your still thinking of illegal things, child porn anyporn, but that's the start, the kill comes(with what's been discussed on here numerous times) when they look on conspiracy sites, like this one, as abhorrent to the norm and bans them.
I take offence at your veiled first statement, I know no peadophiles and do not want to know them.

a reply to: crayzeed
There was no veil in my first statement, the obvious answer was supposed to be in the title of the article I linked. Sorry you misunderstood.

a reply to: crayzeed

Its got sod all to do with what governments want us to do, half of them are knee deep in this #!
We, the people should be dictating to the government what we want them to do, and if they fail we should get rid of them and elect someone who will.
If not then obviously its time to take matters into our own hands.

I could tell quite a few stories about how nonces get treat round here, and in most places outside of the leafy suburbs and The Home Counties etc....but I think the details may upset a few of the more sensitive types and may even contravene site T&C.

There should be zero tolerance on these matters and punishment should fit the crime.

We need to be brutally open and honest and be prepared to tackle these problems head on and stop pussy footing around.

These people are the dregs of our society.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: Arbitrageur
Listen very carefully I will say this only once. The authorities KNOW who these people are so why are they not arresting them now. The do not need to change anything, they know. Why aren't they acting on the information they've got?
Your still thinking of illegal things, child porn anyporn, but that's the start, the kill comes(with what's been discussed on here numerous times) when they look on conspiracy sites, like this one, as abhorrent to the norm and bans them.
I take offence at your veiled first statement, I know no peadophiles and do not want to know them.

They are doing something about it

UK arrests 131 suspected paedophiles in single week
Sky News

a reply to: Freeborn

We may all be products of society but some types of people we simply do not need in the gene pool.

These people destroy the lives of our children thus simply should not be allowed to continue to breathe and allowing them to do so only places the next child in danger.

If true evil exists, then those bastards are draped in the stuff.

Fact is they cannot be fixed, they cannot be monitored accordingly, nor even be given appropriate gaol sentences half the time.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Just curious. Have you ever thought about the pedophiles that know it's wrong, but can't help being attracted to children?

What do you think happens to them, when there's no support system and only persecution?

Do you think that attitudes like this ultimately perpetuate crimes against kids?

a reply to: Aazadan

I think eventually they act out and tamper with kids hence there predisposition to want to in the first place.

When the government won't address the issue nor offer up any real deterrent to beasts and kiddie fiddlers what other solution or alternative remains?

No lawful one, that's for sure!

Do you imagine anyone really cares when a beast disappears?

Seems to me pedophiles are the ones that perpetuate crimes against kids.

How do you teach someone not to want to beast a child? That's not something you know, its simply something you don't do!

Simply beyond help really never mind any form of redemption, in this world and the next if such a thing exists.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Do you imagine anyone really cares when a beast disappears?

They celebrate in my parts. Nobody speaks to the police, and any privately owned CCTV gets deleted if it needs to be.
Another paedo was discovered here last year, he'd failed to report his new address to the authorities, he ended up running to the police for his own protection, it wasn't quite pitchforks and flaming torches but it was close.
He got moved out of the area, he's someone else's problem now.
Communities shouldn't have to do this though, they shouldn't even be let out to walk the streets.

a reply to: Aazadan

Have you ever thought about the pedophiles that know it's wrong, but can't help being attracted to children?

I don't really care about them, personally I'm more concerned about the children whose lives they destroy!

And if they actually know that what they are doing is wrong surely that makes them worse than the nonces who think they aren't doing anything wrong.
They should have the strength to refrain from carrying out their perverted desires.....one way or another.

What do you think happens to them, when there's no support system and only persecution?

How do you recommend we treat them?

Do you think that attitudes like this ultimately perpetuate crimes against kids?

Break the cycle and isolate them from society.

originally posted by: Freeborn
I don't really care about them, personally I'm more concerned about the children whose lives they destroy!

I was referring to the ones who haven't yet acted on those impulses. How do you help them, so that they don't act in the future?

They should have the strength to refrain from carrying out their perverted desires.....one way or another.

Very unlikely, just like everywhere else it's practiced hoping for abstinence doesn't work forever.

How do you recommend we treat them?

By not making their lives hell for one.

originally posted by: andy06shake
I think eventually they act out and tamper with kids hence there predisposition to want to in the first place.

It's the same desire that says you as a straight male like women. Eventually you give into that. So if you want to treat the problem and end it, you're going to need a support structure in place that helps them fight against those urges.