Trump cancels pay raise due federal workers in January

another just for grins comment...
All the military planes folks like to oo and aww about, who do you think does Depot maintenance on them?

If you are unaware what depot level maintenance is, they strip it pretty much down to the skeleton check everything to make sure its ok, and put it back together to help extend the life span of the plane.


Yup that would be civil service workers, and they are hourly wage not GS.

Well, it doesn't bother me that they aren't getting raises, but I bet they don't plan on voting for him next time around either. It is what it is. Hope he doesn't complain about the fallout which I am sure he will.

Pres. Trump is doing what an executive an executive is supposed to do, management. Something that hasn't been done for years in federal government. 20 + trillion in dept and the employees get automatic pay raises?
He's doing the right thing.

Haveing been a civilian fed employee a couple different times in my life, I can tell you that the vast majority of them do not deserve raises. At least 25% of them could be fired and you'd see no difference in services provided by the federal government.

1.Public employee unions need to be done away with.

2. "Automatic raises" need to stop.

3. The constitution doesn't even author half of their positions anyway.

4. Most of the jobs held by federal employees can be done by states, closer to home and more accountable.
(Then 30% of them can be pink slipped)

5. Do we really need a couple thousand employees to fold envelopes? Then a couple thousand more to lick stamps for them. If the government was a business it would not be in business for long.

6. Stop paying over market prices for equipment and supplies. I personally witnessed among other things, a grade 8 bolt and nut bought for $46.00 just because it was for the government. Same bolt and nut is around $6.50 at napa. Used on the same piece of equipment in the real world where it actually gets used.

The gov is not a business, but needs to be run like one. That's exactly what Trump is trying to do. This is a good thing for the U.S.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Most Federal employees could give a hoot a about the company they work for. Or the honor it is to have a job of public trust. I'v seen signatures signed with they comment, "it ain't my money". Pi***d mme off every time.

Alot of people have heard about the $600 toilet seat, $50 dollar pen, $150 hammers. But never seen it. I have. When a company can afford that kind of operating cost it can't afford pay raises for the employees. Why anyone would work for said company is beyond me.

a reply to: MteWamp

I'm not on the fence.
Im in the stands not giving a #.

I just said I know how the threads will go

a reply to: DBCowboy

If Trump really wanted to cut spending, he'd fire 50% of government workers.

He should hire The Bob's from Office Space.

From the outside looking in this does seem to remind me a lot of Cameron's austerity policies here in the UK.
That was very much all about the pursuit of a political ideology sold as an economic necessity.

Cameron also gave tax breaks to the most wealthy, none of which trickled down into the economy.

I openly admit I'm not that informed in the actual workings of US government employees but I would have thought their income would at least be index linked, no-one should have to work for less than previously.

a reply to: StallionDuck

You hypocrite!

Trump has spent more time playing golf in his first year, than Obama did in his first four.

He has been the laziest President in decades so far, already outspending Obama on non-work related trips by a massive margin.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: StallionDuck

You hypocrite!

Trump has spent more time playing golf in his first year, than Obama did in his first four.

He has been the laziest President in decades so far, already outspending Obama on non-work related trips by a massive margin.

Apparently that is known as winning...

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: StallionDuck

You hypocrite!

Trump has spent more time playing golf in his first year, than Obama did in his first four.

He has been the laziest President in decades so far, already outspending Obama on non-work related trips by a massive margin.

And yet he’s done way more in his time than Obama did in 8 years. Lol.

Gotta pay for those tax cuts for the richest of America some how suckers.

Glad to see some Gubment spending be reigned in. We need more of these measures.

And the tax cut has provided my family with an extra $3k this year and I’m not rich.

a reply to: Throes

He has done more hideously unjustifiable crap, yes, but achieved absolutely nothing of any note for the people who actually voted him in, all the while convincing them that he has.

I mean, if you count that stuff, then sure, hes been a powerhouse. I don't count that stuff, because I do not swallow his propaganda, or any propaganda for that matter, since its all paid for with the produce of runaway capitalism that has abandoned the peoples interest in favour of its own, no matter which side of the debate it comes from.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Maybe more will leave, since firing them is so hard.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Regardless, even as much as I can't stand him I cannot object to this decision. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Throes

He has done more hideously unjustifiable crap, yes, but achieved absolutely nothing of any note for the people who actually voted him in, all the while convincing them that he has.

I mean, if you count that stuff, then sure, hes been a powerhouse. I don't count that stuff, because I do not swallow his propaganda, or any propaganda for that matter, since its all paid for with the produce of runaway capitalism that has abandoned the peoples interest in favour of its own, no matter which side of the debate it comes from.

He’s saved my family $3k, he’s supporting businesses large and small through deregulation and tax cuts as well. We haven’t seen a President this business friendly in a long time and it’s showing in the market. At the end of the day for my family to do well we need a leader who is business friendly.

a reply to: Throes

Ah, so because you, personally benefit, you believe that things are generally better?

How utterly predictable. Unjustifiable from a logical point of view, but predictable anyway. Trump being in office does not benefit those who NEED help, it only benefits those who WANT help. If you NEEDED help, you would be left to drown, as are folk who actually need effective representation and lack it.

a reply to: toysforadults

Do you realize that DMV are state offices? Also many of those road workers you see are actually contracted or sub contracted workers on a state or federal contract... How many actual federal employees do you know?

My dad is a nuclear physicist, air force vet and went to MIT when he was 16, now he works I'm Government - should we fire him? What about my sister who is a published scientist with a Masters degree, should we fire her? Or what about me? I'm a warranted contracting officer managing and negotiating hundreds of millions in contracts for the federal Government; I have a masters degree and have been offered tripl my current GS12 salary to work in the private sector - should they fire me?

Maybe before you lambast an entire group of people, you should first have a cogent argument based in logic- i.e. not citing state Government positions to make your case...

a reply to: UKTruth

As a federal employee I must disagree with your statement. The overwhelming majority of federal workers do provide valuable services to the public and are not getting rich from the federal tit.

originally posted by: toolgal462

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: odzeandennz

Tell that to the welder who hangs upside down for eight hours a day in a torpedo shaft that's only five feet wide.

Ummm... That would be a contract worker. I've never heard of a "welder government worker". That's not the persons this cut is affecting.

LOL I was scratching my head over that stupid comment, thank you for straightening that out. hahahahah

Anyone know how many paid holidays and vacation days the Fed employees are getting? I bet a lot more than anyone in the private sector.

Co-worker said that a family friend is a federal worker. He said exactly this...

Friend of ours is a federal worker. She didn't have any experience only a degree. They give her 140k a year plus a crap ton in benefits (I have no idea what those are but apparently it's more than medical?). When she and her husband came over once, she laughed at the fact that they get paid a crap ton of money for doing little to nothing, really getting one over the tax payers. She couldn't believe how "stupid" people let them get away with it. She said she could take off 3 months of work for BS reasons and she'll still get paid as though she was working the whole time - AND THEN still get her vacation days.


I'm not sure what she does. I didn't bother to ask. I'm not sure how many paid holidays they get but based on when most government services are not available, I'd imagine every single one.


Sorry!! Edited wrong post!