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It isn't greed when US citizens are currently hurting and need better trade arrangements.
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Why does American dairy need to be in Canadian markets so badly then? Not our fault you dont buy dairy products. Or your farmers over produce. But in all honesty, it's not the farmers it's the company's that label and distribute the dairy, they just want to push their products even further for corporate gains.
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
It isn't greed when US citizens are currently hurting and need better trade arrangements.
Agree , our politicians sold out the American people with bad agreements with Nafta and globalism.
However, I hope the details of the new agreements is better than just making Corporations pay the mexican work force 16 bucks an hour minimum wage. If that is the big key factor of the new agreement than sadly this is likely just a PR stunt and not much of a game changer IMO.
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
Why does American dairy need to be in Canadian markets so badly then? Not our fault you dont buy dairy products. Or your farmers over produce. But in all honesty, it's not the farmers it's the company's that label and distribute the dairy, they just want to push their products even further for corporate gains.
originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: network dude
Just pointing how greedy and petty it is. That's all, why should we care about your farmers when they over produce and signed into contracts with companys like Nestle?
Trump dragged Canada into a trade war. So don't play the whole hate on Trudeau bandwagon thing here, hes doing what he's doing because it will hurt our dairy farmers. Like I said things were 0refectly fine until Trunp started this mess. All for what? Greed!
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
It isn't greed when US citizens are currently hurting and need better trade arrangements.
Agree , our politicians sold out the American people with bad agreements with Nafta and globalism.
However, I hope the details of the new agreements is better than just making Corporations pay the mexican work force 16 bucks an hour minimum wage. If that is the big key factor of the new agreement than sadly this is likely just a PR stunt and not much of a game changer IMO.
Ford is scheduled to open a new $1.6 billion small-car assembly factory in San Luis Potosí in 2018 and hire 2,800 workers. People familiar with the matter say Ford will produce its Focus there, which is currently built in Michigan.
A contract reviewed by The Wall Street Journal puts factory wages at the facility at about $1.15 to $2.30 per hour, on par with what other auto-assembly plants currently pay in the region. The move to Mexico will yield cost savings of about $1,300 per vehicle, or about $300 million a year, according to manufacturing experts familiar with the Detroit car maker’s finances.
Raising autoworkers wages in Mexican plants helps American plants stay open or expand. The reason they move production is for dirt cheap labour.
originally posted by: interupt42
In essence:
1. The manufacturing plants are already in Mexico
2. The Mexican workforce is already experienced and knowledgeable on the manufacturing process.
3. The American work force needs to be educated and brought up to speed with the Mexican work force.
4. The American work force will likely require more than $16 bucks an hour and according to some stats Americans get paid $58 bucks on average to do the same as their Mexican counterparts.
5. The American work force has to comply with American rules and regulations such as workers comp,benefits, unions, and workers rights such as 40 hr work weeks and overtime, etc....
So despite raising the wages from pennies an hour to $16 an hour its still not enough of incentives to motivate Americans Corporations to move their manufacturing back to the US.
I just don't see why would US car manufactures like ford would want to spend hundreds of millions to move factories back to America to only then pay higher wages ,benefits, unions, workers rights in America?
originally posted by: Dembow
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I'm Latino. Many of us have European blood....(Spain). I'm not lactose intolerant either. *Shrugs*
originally posted by: Dembow
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I'm Latino. Many of us have European blood....(Spain). I'm not lactose intolerant either. *Shrugs*
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
originally posted by: Dembow
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan
I'm Latino. Many of us have European blood....(Spain). I'm not lactose intolerant either. *Shrugs*
Well of course.
But your individual story aside, statistics indicate lactose intolerance is typical among latin folks.
WASHINGTON—Canada’s top trade negotiator joined her Mexican and U.S. counterparts in Washington on Aug. 28 in a bid for Ottawa be part of a revamped North American trade pact, as U.S. officials expressed optimism a deal could be reached this week.
But Canada will be under pressure to accept new terms on auto trade and dispute settlement rules after the United States and Mexico agreed on Aug. 27 to overhaul the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
The rush is on for Canada to get a NAFTA deal, though a key stumbling block remains.
As analysts began parsing summaries of a partial U.S.-Mexico deal announced Aug. 27, most details didn’t jump out as deal-breakers for the other partner in the 24-year-old continental trade pact. The problems instead lie in a series of NAFTA fights always seen as squarely between Canada and the U.S., chief among them the pact’s dispute resolution systems.
“It seems like a set of things that are very easy for Canada to come in on,” Brett House, deputy chief economist at Bank of Nova Scotia, said in an interview about what the U.S. and Mexico agreed to. “We’re really just back to where we always were.”
Markets appear unconcerned, with Canadian auto-parts makers Linamar Corp. and Magna International Inc. extending gains on Aug. 28—signaling a bet Canada will make the cut on a final deal and that the Mexico problems were the biggest ones that needed fixing. “I am not concerned right now for Canada’s position,” Bruce Heyman, a U.S. ambassador to Canada under Barack Obama, told BNN Bloomberg television.
But the clock is ticking on the North American Free Trade Agreement. Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland arrived in Washington for talks Aug. 28, and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer wants to notify Congress of a deal by Aug. 31. It would be a lot easier to do so with Canada since U.S. lawmakers might fight the Trump administration if it tries to push ahead with only Mexico.