David Pecker gets federal immunity in Michael Cohen case

originally posted by: xuenchen
"David Pecker"

even the names are better than make believe 💥😃😃💥

now the gossip tabloids are becoming official sources 🎃💸🎃

I got a chuckle out of D.C. mayor "Bowser". She looks better than Brazile nut though.

a reply to: six67seven

Yes, his lawyers. And it was he who has chosen those lawyers because of their ability to do so, to find those loopholes through which he can scramble to safety or into other lucrative profit centers. In Cohen, Trump got what he paid for, which is exactly what Trump now proclaims Cohen to be. In trying to run away all by himself and denying them and calling them names he has alienated his past ''associates'' and they are now scrambling themselves to find any safety they can in the wake of Trumps coming trainwreck.

a reply to: carpooler


Political-Power marriages have been around since the beginning of time.

What makes a marriage work between 2 people is their business. Not all are about fidelity - - nor should they be.

Those in a marriage define it - - not outsiders, the public, or the media.

Prostitution should be legal.

Most investigated Political "couple" ever - - the Clintons. And what do we have? "Bill likes sex". So what. And they are still married.

The issue was/is about lying and/or covering up the facts/truth.

In Trump's case there's hush money - - how and where did it come from. Was it his personal money (doubtful, since Trump doesn't use his own money). So, if it's campaign money - - he's using basically public money.

Leave the drama on the floor - - focus on the facts.

a reply to: Annee

The issue was/is about lying and/or covering up the facts/truth. In Trump's case there's hush money - - how and where did it come from. Was it his personal money (doubtful, since Trump doesn't use his own money). So, if it's campaign money - - he's using basically public money. Leave the drama on the floor - - focus on the facts.

Glad to see you interested in the facts...
www.wsj.com...

Since 2011, Stormy Daniels and Trump lawyer Michael Cohen have battled over her allegations of an affair, a standoff that has now reached the White House

2011 is prior to the 2016 presidential campaign.
facts and all

a reply to: Grambler

I dont care that trump is basicaly a crummy person; I care that he is an outsider that is outing the deep state with his mere presence every day. And he also seems to want america to do well, and I agree with many of his policies.

Nor do I. Had he been just ''''billionaire'' Trump, Mr. High Life man about town, using his money to draw beautiful women into his orbit I would just go, ''yeah, that's how it works for some women and he sure is working it''

However he is not just a billionaire. He is the man who stands before us as a proclaimed ''outsider''
I do not find that to be the case. I see him as very much an ''insider'' as it is the scummy and clandestine that rise to power in this system we have. Clinton is not an aberation, nor is Trump. Both were part and parcel with the ''get ahead'' thinking of all of those who seek to scam the very system they claim to want to fix. Ih this sense, to me,

Trump and Clinton are both ''the deep state''. While Clinton was part of an already established machine the only outsider I see about Trump is that he was rejected by the higher up machinists and hjs only interest is getting a bigger piece of the pie for himself.

That slides right into this notion that he might seem to want America to do well. Seeing him as I do, that ''it's all for America'' is a sham. It is a con job just like the con job the Clintons have pulled for decades. Sure if the constituents can grab some crumbs from the table then the Clintons were liberal. But for me it is the same with Trump. If his base can get a few little tax breaks and some of their pet peeves taken care of then it is fine by them.

I must admit, I do not know which I think better, driving around in a Mercades that is about to run out of gas or bounding along in a clanky old Ford that promises to fall apart with every pot hole it comes across. I guess it depends upon which machine one wants to ride.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

If trump is deep state, why are they rabidly foaming at the mouth to remove him?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Annee

The issue was/is about lying and/or covering up the facts/truth. In Trump's case there's hush money - - how and where did it come from. Was it his personal money (doubtful, since Trump doesn't use his own money). So, if it's campaign money - - he's using basically public money. Leave the drama on the floor - - focus on the facts.

Glad to see you interested in the facts...
www.wsj.com...

Since 2011, Stormy Daniels and Trump lawyer Michael Cohen have battled over her allegations of an affair, a standoff that has now reached the White House

2011 is prior to the 2016 presidential campaign.
facts and all

Fact is - - I don't know all the facts. Neither do you.

I do know when it was brought up during campaigning and still - - he lied about it.

It's about lying.

Do I think it should matter if he had sex outside of marriage? NO

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm not saying I agree with Trump having extramarital affairs, but it seems like a good way to silence someone.

Better than the Clinton West Style.

8 posts in and already a:

"But, Clinton"

That's going to be a constant theme until she is investigated properly as well. Some people don't wan't to forget about 30 years of selling out America and "REAL" crimes to focus on a horny POTUS and his oh so terrible crimes.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Annee

The issue was/is about lying and/or covering up the facts/truth. In Trump's case there's hush money - - how and where did it come from. Was it his personal money (doubtful, since Trump doesn't use his own money). So, if it's campaign money - - he's using basically public money. Leave the drama on the floor - - focus on the facts.

Glad to see you interested in the facts...
www.wsj.com...

Since 2011, Stormy Daniels and Trump lawyer Michael Cohen have battled over her allegations of an affair, a standoff that has now reached the White House

2011 is prior to the 2016 presidential campaign.
facts and all

Fact is - - I don't know all the facts. Neither do you.

I do know when it was brought up during campaigning and still - - he lied about it.

It's about lying.

Do I think it should matter if he had sex outside of marriage? NO

Benghazi must have really P'd you off if lying is what it's all about.

originally posted by: xuenchen
"David Pecker"

even the names are better than make believe 💥😃😃💥

now the gossip tabloids are becoming official sources 🎃💸🎃

Talk about Fake News Irony at its finest....full circle!

Last ditch effort? The entire house of Trump cards is falling apart.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Pecker was subpoenaed by federal investigators in April, as were his company and the Trump Organization. The Journal said the subpoenas were served at the same time the FBI raided Cohen's office and residences, seizing electronics, recordings and thousands of documents.

Looks like this was Mueller's last ditch effort to find anything he could, so he didn't look like he "lost".

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Is it illegal to pay someone to not talk about non-criminal activity?

Im trying to catch up on this story, and cannot for the life of me understand why any of this matters. Unless its "campaign finance" stuff, in which case I cannot figure out how precedence would create any real legal liablity for Trump beyond the need to pay some fines.

Greasy and sleazy? He sure is. But i've yet to see evidence of criminality beyond this potential minor campaign finance issue.

I mean, if John Edwards is acquitted for similar, how is this even really a liablity?

originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Last ditch effort? The entire house of Trump cards is falling apart.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Pecker was subpoenaed by federal investigators in April, as were his company and the Trump Organization. The Journal said the subpoenas were served at the same time the FBI raided Cohen's office and residences, seizing electronics, recordings and thousands of documents.

Looks like this was Mueller's last ditch effort to find anything he could, so he didn't look like he "lost".

Can you walk me through your logic that supports this? If you are just throwing it out there, you can ignore me.

But i come to ATS to see that folks think the sky is falling on Trump, and I can't piece together the steps that gets them there.

I think this story is funny in that it outs people that have claimed the hillary investigation was by the book.

Why are so many people that feel that sure that this guy getting immunity means he will have some sort of evidence to give that could hurt trump?

I mean, didnt we learn from the hillary investigation, the FBI just hands out immunity for the heck of it.?

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Last ditch effort? The entire house of Trump cards is falling apart.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Pecker was subpoenaed by federal investigators in April, as were his company and the Trump Organization. The Journal said the subpoenas were served at the same time the FBI raided Cohen's office and residences, seizing electronics, recordings and thousands of documents.

Looks like this was Mueller's last ditch effort to find anything he could, so he didn't look like he "lost".

Can you walk me through your logic that supports this? If you are just throwing it out there, you can ignore me.

But i come to ATS to see that folks think the sky is falling on Trump, and I can't piece together the steps that gets them there.

I think the argument is that Cohen and this guty will show evidence that trump violated campaign finance laws.

From there, I assume they think this will mean trump gets ousted from office in some way.

I dont think any of those steps have been close to having been proved, but I believe thats the theory.

a reply to: Grambler

That is what i am gathering...but i don't see how any of the dots connect.

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Grambler

That is what i am gathering...but i don't see how any of the dots connect.

I mean honestly, if I look at this from the point of view as someone who hates trump.

Realistically I am probably knowing this isnt enough to knock trump out of office yet.

But it makes him look bad, and may help the dems in the midterms. And from there, we could use this and possibly more dirt from people who flip to either impeach trump or handicap him so he cant get anything on his agenda done, and then oust him in 2020.

We shall see if that is successful.

originally posted by: Sabrechucker

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: vinifalou
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I'm not saying I agree with Trump having extramarital affairs, but it seems like a good way to silence someone.

Better than the Clinton West Style.

8 posts in and already a:

"But, Clinton"

That's going to be a constant theme until she is investigated properly as well. Some people don't wan't to forget about 30 years of selling out America and "REAL" crimes to focus on a horny POTUS and his oh so terrible crimes.

How much more money and how many more years will that be?

Trumpster's are already constantly complaining investigations of him have gone on too long.

You can't have it both ways.

originally posted by: Sabrechucker

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Annee

The issue was/is about lying and/or covering up the facts/truth. In Trump's case there's hush money - - how and where did it come from. Was it his personal money (doubtful, since Trump doesn't use his own money). So, if it's campaign money - - he's using basically public money. Leave the drama on the floor - - focus on the facts.

Glad to see you interested in the facts...
www.wsj.com...

Since 2011, Stormy Daniels and Trump lawyer Michael Cohen have battled over her allegations of an affair, a standoff that has now reached the White House

2011 is prior to the 2016 presidential campaign.
facts and all

Fact is - - I don't know all the facts. Neither do you.

I do know when it was brought up during campaigning and still - - he lied about it.

It's about lying.

Do I think it should matter if he had sex outside of marriage? NO

Benghazi must have really P'd you off if lying is what it's all about.

Obviously, you have not researched facts on Benghazi.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: HunkaHunka
Last ditch effort? The entire house of Trump cards is falling apart.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Pecker was subpoenaed by federal investigators in April, as were his company and the Trump Organization. The Journal said the subpoenas were served at the same time the FBI raided Cohen's office and residences, seizing electronics, recordings and thousands of documents.

Looks like this was Mueller's last ditch effort to find anything he could, so he didn't look like he "lost".

Can you walk me through your logic that supports this? If you are just throwing it out there, you can ignore me.

But i come to ATS to see that folks think the sky is falling on Trump, and I can't piece together the steps that gets them there.

I think the argument is that Cohen and this guty will show evidence that trump violated campaign finance laws.

From there, I assume they think this will mean trump gets ousted from office in some way.

I dont think any of those steps have been close to having been proved, but I believe thats the theory.

When you add everything in and take a step back, you can almost see how they, through subversion, navigated the back channels through installed "yes" people in key positions from a variety of agencies to get the FISA, with virtually every Dim hating on our POTUS, managed to get SC approved, while pushing the Russo-Collusion narrative via Liberal MSM through their back channel connections.

It is here that the narrative had to last long enough to get to someone close to Trump, hence the Raids and ever expanding powers of the SC.

Lmfao, this really has me laughing really hard, this whole thing, it was a sham! Trump literally was RIGHT, lmfao, it was a witch hunt, the whole time, they were after something else.

Most assume that Mueller just couldn't find anything, thus shifted, I'd say, that's his aim from the start.

Trump really is powerful and awesome, huh? His very nature and name shatters the minds of leftist into madness, supporters praise, adore and love him and the liberal media is obsessed at his every move. Even the greatest technological achievements of mankind like Google and Twitter have his name trending at the top, his very name on every website generates ad revenue in the millions, by god ONE man saturated the US net.