University of North Carolina Students Topple Confederate Monument

a reply to: neo96

Are you bragging and celebrating that point? Because I'm pretty sure that too is at the top of a list of things you just don't do.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Tearing down statues is a the top of the list of things Americans just don't do.

The stuff of third world cess pools, and banana republics.

originally posted by: Annee
I am against vandalism and destruction of property.

However, I can see logical reasoning to move some of these statues out of the "public square" and into museums. By legal means.

The statues themselves have nothing to do with actual history -- other then the timing of when and why they were constructed during the Jim Crow/Civil Rights era.

I agree.

the problem here is the mental and moral divide, which other nations can use as a potential weapon.
it's not that there isn't a sensible solution to all of this, rather we're being made to think there isnt a sensible solution.

we can send a spacecraft to a different planet, yet we still have trouble with dealing with statues??? some things just don't quite add up.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

PS: Incredibly, Ireland just erected statues of Barack and Michelle Obama. Why ?

Just smile at the thought of how many birds are going to relieve themselves flying over them.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Should the US and public education institutions have ever let the statues of a bunch of traitors who betrayed their country be put up on government/public property???

First , you have to show they were traitors
You dont know US history very well , do you ?
Educate yourself before posting tripe

originally posted by: PhloydPhan
Boo-hoo. There goes another Confederate participation trophy.

And before someone sets up a false equivalence between Silent Sam and, say, the also-controversial statue of Thomas Jefferson at the University of Virginia, let's remember that Silent Sam wasn't a real person. Silent Sam didn't have any contributions - some good, some bad - to American History.

Silent Sam was a statue paid for by the United Daughters of the Confederacy to memorialize UNC students who fought for the Confederacy. They fought - and lost - a war to preserve the right of one group of people to own another group of people.

Good on the students, good on the faculty, and good on the neighbors. We should never forget our history, but this is one piece that should *not* be celebrated.

Some day do you think others will start tearing down statues related to the Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan conflicts as well as many other due to the number of people slaughtered by our government? Why stop at the confederacy?

originally posted by: neo96
Tearing down statues is a the top of the list of things Americans just don't do.

a reply to: neo96

Oh well. I'm not exactly weeping for that monument dedicated to treason. I wouldn't go tear it down myself, but it belongs in a museum, not on a college campus.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Oh well. I'm not exactly weeping for that monument dedicated to treason

Then you'd should have no problems with the Democratic Party being torn down.

a reply to: TinySickTears

I'm liking your, threads/posts more and more.. I understand you are a genuine person and agree with what you say here, are they just trying to envoke hate and rage? Seems to me they are and they should be brought to justice in my eyes.. Who says their rights are warranted, their own? I want to say the world but hell the US is flipping upside down within just the past decade.. I want to go back to the 80's lol

The students need punished to the full extent of the law. I dont give a damn about a stupid statue but that still doesnt give them the right to circumvent the law any time they feel like they want too.
Kick em out of school for a year.

a reply to: neo96

Nope. Not really. As long as a better party dedicated to liberalism and Socialism would be put together afterwards. Though ultimately, I think it would be easier for the DNC to fix its own corruption and mismanagement than tearing it all down and rebuilding from scratch.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: neo96
Tearing down statues is a the top of the list of things Americans just don't do.

Damn it, ninja'd! I was going to post up something similar.

What self-righteous activities will they occupy themselves with when they run out of flags and statues to tear down?

Maybe the faculty members cheering them on should pay for damages or maybe have their qualifications to teach questioned. It would be instructive to know what the faculty at the righteous vandalism were supposed to be teaching. I'd bet that they were all intellectual lightweights from the social "sciences" departments.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Why?

I watched that live.

The US troops put the rope on it.

But the Iraqi's themselves pulled it down.

Iraq was hardly a bastion of freedom ,and democracy.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: neo96

Nope. Not really. As long as a better party dedicated to liberalism and Socialism would be put together afterwards. Though ultimately, I think it would be easier for the DNC to fix its own corruption and mismanagement than tearing it all down and rebuilding from scratch.

Given how far the Democrats have travelled, swapping places on so many issues with the GOP as the latter hurtles rightwards into utter lunacy, you'd be surprised how few people realise just how much it's changed.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
The students need punished to the full extent of the law. I dont give a damn about a stupid statue but that still doesnt give them the right to circumvent the law any time they feel like they want too.
Kick em out of school for a year.

exactly.

in one corner you have ignoramuses thinking they shave a right to take down private property, and in another corner you have ignoramuses ready to kill the previous ignoramuses to defend the statues of shady figures....

in the end we're left with a bunch of 'ignoramii' each thinking they're right.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

So not all monuments built on slavery need abolished.

Just a fresh coat of bullsnip.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Why?

I watched that live.

The US troops put the rope on it.

But the Iraqi's themselves pulled it down.

Iraq was hardly a bastion of freedom ,and democracy.

You mean context matters?
Huh...