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Executive clemency for executive killers
You think my accusation is over the top? Well, please talk with Elaine Levenson.
Levenson, a Cincinnati housewife, has been waiting for her heart to explode. In 1981, surgeons implanted a mechanical valve in her heart, the Bjork-Shiley, "the Rolls-Royce of valves," her doctor told her. What neither she nor her doctor knew was that several Bjork-Shiley valves had fractured during testing, years before her implant. The company that made the valve, a unit of the New York-based pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, never told the government.
At Pfizer's factory in the Caribbean, company inspectors found inferior equipment, which made poor welds. Rather than toss out bad valves, Pfizer management ordered the defects ground down, weakening the valves further but making them look smooth and perfect. Then Pfizer sold them worldwide.
...as Mrs. Levenson told me, without her lawyer and the threat of a class action tort, Pfizer would not have paid her a dime of compensation.
The tort reformers' line is that fee-hungry lawyers are hawking bogus fears, poisoning Americans' faith in the basic decency of the business community, turning us into a nation of people who no longer trust each other. But whose fault is that? The lawyers? Elaine Levenson put her trust in Pfizer Pharmaceutical. Then they broke her heart.
...A decade ago, after eighteen buildings blew up in Chicago and killed four people, I searched through the records of the local private gas company on behalf of survivors. What I found would make you sick. I saw engineers' reports, from years earlier, with maps marking where explosions would be likely to take place. The company, People's Gas, could have bought the coffins in advance.
Management had rejected costly repairs as "not in the strategic plan." It's not planned evil at work here, but the enormity of corporate structures in which human consequences of financial acts are distant and unimaginable.
Also see:
Bush Pushes to Limit Class-Action Suits
Texas AG Sues Drug Distributors
Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott filed suit against two distributors of the scarce flu vaccine for allegedly charging exorbitant prices to hospitals in Houston, Dallas and Sherman, in violation of state law. The suit contends the companies offered 10-dose vials, which would typically cost between $65 and $80 each, for as much as $950 and demanded cash on delivery.
The Attorney General's suit asks the court to order the companies to relinquish all profits realized from this unconscionable pricing scheme against providers. It also seeks civil penalties under the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, as well as temporary and permanent injunctions.
Originally posted by Kidfinger
Obviously accountability is out the window now. Even Bush has stated as such. There is not much left for this administration left to do before it can act without impugnity.
Originally posted by soficrow
But, we can stand together. We can change things back the way they're supposed to be.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
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Note, ken lay an every other corporate scandal is being procecuted under THIS administration. The laws were broken under Clinton who did nothing.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
Sofi, darling, please do a search of how much money the plantiff gets in such cases. You will find that its pennies as compared to the lawyers. If the money really went to the victims I would be for all the law suites. It doesn't.
Note, ken lay an every other corporate scandal is being procecuted under THIS administration. The laws were broken under Clinton who did nothing.
Originally posted by DrHoracid
I am not sure it stopped all lawsuites. Just placed them into federal court. did I miss something?
[smack back]
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
I was originally for the law that prevents class action suits for the same reason as Dr horacid. Class action suits are a gimick to make lawyers more rich...
BUT they at least served one good purpose... they punished the companies that tried to/ or thru negligence, cause us harm...
We could easily fix that problem with one amendment... lawyers could be prevented from taking more than standard base hours payment from a class action civil suit.
the other issue of class action suits is the huge sums awarded, would often bankrupt the company and the claimants would get next to nothing...
what ever happened to the old threat of "if your company screws me, I will own you"
why not award the bankrupt company (and assets) to the suing party?
The pharm industry seems to have taken possesion of some integral part of the Presidents anatomy for him to be so strongly advocating for them... it is getting down right obvious...
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
If the enemy relies on an advantage to defeat you, deny him that advantage and you will not be defeated.
In this case, their advatage is they navigate the courts well and control the laws being handed down from Washington. They fight with words and mandates, executive orders and international accords.
There are dozens of groups retaliating in the courts, but it really is a losing battle. The only way to solve the problem is to be uncivilized. Remember the American Revolution? American patriots stopped sending the English money, confiscated their goods, refused to budge when emissaries stopped in for a chat. Eventually the British intervened militarily, and we beat them on that front too.
If the government thugs are smart, they won't try to quell the uprising when it eventually happens. I suspect they'll roll with it and get out while they still can. If they attempt to use the US Army or the Marines against their own populace, there will be severe consequences. If they think Fallujah was a tough nut to crack, wait till they tri Miami or Detroit, or Chicago.
Washington is that way -->
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
With proper counter inteligence, which is us, now, and everyone else on the net collecting cold hard data, asymetrical warfare becomes possible, and highly effective. Find out what your enemy wants you to do and do the opposite. The enemy in this case has plans for almost every contingency, so it's a bit like tip-toe through the landmines trying to come up with a workable defense/counter attack.
This administration has side-stepped accountability by over-representing their proponents, and refusing to acknowledge, or marginalizing, their opponents. Most of the country realizes some aspect of what's going wrong, very few people know the real extent of the problem.
The international community might be willing to help us reclaim our independence, the same way they helped us the first time around, against the English. I don't think it's their responsibility, but some people might ask for and be willing to accept their help. I'm sure they will be gracious enough to leave when the job is done, though I doubt many Americans would believe the goodwill until they saw it.
The truth is, their capabilities to supress dissent are stretched thin, and they don't have enough jail space for all of us. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the government hijackers are looking around, nervous as hell, like plantation owners surrounded by angry 'property.'
If we would dump our inhibitions, we could just wish them out of existence. If we all concentrate real hard...
This is (like usual from you) a big topic, and worthy of a good deal more discussion.
I think many people have given up thinking of solutions, and that's surrender plain and simple. Better to acknowledge your enemies strength and use it as motivation and inspiration, rather than allow it to terrorize and subjugate you. (That's what they want, so don't allow them the satisfaction)
War does not always involve traditional weapons. No lives need be lost (no more than have already). In the case of our beloved oppressors, I think their main weakness is their hubris, it seems to consume them. That sort of weakness can be deadly, when exploited by a crafty opponent.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Class action lawsuits do a lot of good overall, but when lawyers make millions while those who have been harmed by poor products or negligence have to make do with a few dollars or coupons for products or services, reform is imperative.
Tort reform is absolutely necessary for the health of business, big or otherwise. I'd like to know who in the world you think will pay your wages and salaries, if it isn't business.