The new gen is here

I will start this with a quote. “Thought i was high, thought I was free, thought I was there, divine destiny... divine destiny...this changes everything.” Thank you TOOL

The new generation is here and will shape the world as we know it. Much of what you know will change and many will not like it. We have a choice as to where this will go. What can you and I do to help make this a positive change? I don’t know seeing as I have my views. But we can all play a part to insure the future can be fruitful for all. The divided can be brought together but we need to find common ground. Where can we find that ground? I believe we need to stop blaming others and come together. People and TPTB all together. “We are the people” We are all one and the same.

a reply to: Allaroundyou

And when the change comes, previous generations will cry about how you're ruining everything, and the younger generations will be labeled as spoiled, lazy, etc. etc.

The cycle goes on.

I hate to be "that guy" but your optimism is seriously deluded.

"insure the future can be fruitful for all."

Too much stupid going around for this to be a viable option and that is the ugly truth.

If we're to be realistic and blunt, we only have to listen to the Boomers and upper end Xers complain for a minimum of 20 more years before they start to die off quickly.

Sound callous and harsh, but hey, nobody lives forever. Society will change, and continue to change, with the die-off of every generation, there's nothing anybody can do to stop that. Unless they want to make it Rule of the Land to never change/adapt over time, and become a stifling oppressive pit like Saudi Arabia or something (and to be fair, even their old crusties are dying off & the country is changing slowly)

The gift of old age is we get to die before we see the destruction wrought by the next generation of all we built.

As long as this change doesn’t involve the erosion of liberty and our Constitutional rights then they can do whatever the hell they want. If it involves higher taxes, big Government and an nanny state then they can sod off.

a reply to: Nyiah

Sounds like a classic Socialist doctrine. There needs to be genocide so we can usher in our ideal dystopia where the State is god and the rights of the individual are trampled by jack booted Government thug.

I will be happy to die off before that happens.

a reply to: Metallicus

The new gen is all for total socialism, it's like living with mommy and daddy forever! Just sit back and let gov take of everything for you. As long as they have music pumped into their ears and an Xbox to play with, it's all good.

I was watching at a commercial on YouTube that explains perfectly this new gen that is coming of age. It is really sad when you look at it and realize how they are being manipulated.



A lot of symbolism in that commercial. I think it represents perfectly what is being done with the young generation and how they are being manipulated and their minds twisted to repudiate what is good and accept bad. She actually looks and acts like she is demon possessed throughout the entire commercial.

This new generation has no understanding of right and wrong, good and bad.

originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: Nyiah

Sounds like a classic Socialist doctrine. There needs to be genocide so we can usher in our ideal dystopia where the State is god and the rights of the individual are trampled by jack booted Government thug.

I will be happy to die off before that happens.

The Silent Gen and older Boomers are already well into dying off, and their social ideals from their eras have already solidly shifted to what the younger Boomers & older Xers favor. Which is currently shifting to what the younger Xers and older Millennials favor.
In due time, what I as an older Millennial favor will fall out of favor for what the younger Millennials & older Gen Zers favor. It takes time & dying off OF those prior generations to really feel anything change.

What part of this is too difficult to grasp?

Its almost like you folk are against anything being easy or against any form or pleasure or free time. Which is wierd - considering we are in an age where technological break throughs make these things listed above possible.

I think it comes down to jealousy really, the older gens are realizing they spent their whole lives slaving away for the corporate man and dont have # to show for it when the time comes. The younger gens will certainly have more abundant happy memories of good times spent having fun god forbid not at work for peanuts.

originally posted by: Allaroundyou
What can you and I do to help make this a positive change?

Keep the candy dishes filled with Tide Pods and let Darwin's laws carry us to prosperity...

a reply to: Allaroundyou


Ummm...Dude...are you partaking of some of that...Big Pharma...?

Don't be a Bogart man...







YouSir

I did my part. Daughter drives a 5 speed and writes in cursive. She loves Skynyrd and Zeppelin!

41 college credit hours at age of 17.

a reply to: caterpillage

Perhaps the young saw:
the 2008 housing (bank inspired) crash (privatize gains-socialize losses)

and can see:
the unmanageable national debt
unmanageable heath care
unmanageable college debt
unmanageable absence of cost of living raises
huge amounts of economic gains going to the top

And demands change because all they (and I) see is lip service and no concrete changes.

originally posted by: Lightdhype
I think it comes down to jealousy really, the older gens are realizing they spent their whole lives slaving away for the corporate man and dont have # to show for it when the time comes. The younger gens will certainly have more abundant happy memories of good times spent having fun god forbid not at work for peanuts.

In all seriousness, I remember probably about 15 years ago, a minor blowout tiff between my mother and grandmother over who was going out on better footing someday in old age. My mother has always been under the misguided impression that buckets of money makes living to old age worth it. My grandmother disagreed. Loudly.

The gist of my grandmother's winning argument was the spoiled will always bitch no matter what they have at any age because they went through life with an entitled attitude to begin with ("Oh, you brats, you have no appreciation for simply living. Or even WORKING. You don't tough nothing out, you just whine. Whine, whine, whine, what a bunch of babies we gave the world, we raised you WRONG.")

I think along with your jealousy suggestion, rooted most likely in the parents of the Boomers making do with little to no complaints, the entitlement is something else to factor in.Boomers think the younger generations are bad, well where do you think they learned it? The Silent Generation TAUGHT you that, at least my grandmother had the good sense to realize it & admit it. And then you passed it on.

originally posted by: caterpillage
a reply to: Metallicus

The new gen is all for total socialism, it's like living with mommy and daddy forever! Just sit back and let gov take of everything for you. As long as they have music pumped into their ears and an Xbox to play with, it's all good.

Ya know I always hear 1984 as the book that's referenced as the playbook for the future...i've always thought that was wrong. It feels far more like farenheit 451. A world where everyone's plugged in constantly to their earbuds and zoned out in front of a giant screen of bull#, hopped up on drugs that keep them as idiotic zombies while knowledge is burned and destroyed around them and they cheer it on because knowledge and self responsibility is bad...mmmmmkaay.

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: caterpillage
a reply to: Metallicus

The new gen is all for total socialism, it's like living with mommy and daddy forever! Just sit back and let gov take of everything for you. As long as they have music pumped into their ears and an Xbox to play with, it's all good.

Ya know I always hear 1984 as the book that's referenced as the playbook for the future...i've always thought that was wrong. It feels far more like farenheit 451. A world where everyone's plugged in constantly to their earbuds and zoned out in front of a giant screen of bull#, hopped up on drugs that keep them as idiotic zombies while knowledge is burned and destroyed around them and they cheer it on because knowledge and self responsibility is bad...mmmmmkaay.

Got any examples of knowledge being snubbed? Whether you want to admit it or not, most science deniers aren't Gen Xers (younger ones, anyway) Millennials & Gen Zers, but the other folks chiding, "Oh yeah? And who decided THEY were experts?"

And again, if you're going to blame any of the younger folks for what they've been taught in schools, I remind you of who's doing the bulk of the teaching. Kicking the can down the road and calling the youngins stupid or uneducated doesn't fly, that's just shirking responsibility for being a few terrible generations' worth of teachers. Isn't it.

originally posted by: Nyiah
Boomers think the younger generations are bad, well where do you think they learned it? The Silent Generation TAUGHT you that, at least my grandmother had the good sense to realize it & admit it. And then you passed it on.

I always find it funny how this is lost on so many who complain about younger generations! But then again, being oblivious to the fact that they are part of the failure they complain about, it fits right in with the fantasy world they all seem to live in that the rest of us don't see.

a reply to: BloodStainedGlass

Humanity has been stupid for a long time, and somehow we've managed. I believe that we've made progress over the long term, though we've backslid many times.

It least in my family, we've managed to stay idealistic, despite experiencing hardship and racial discrimination. (Finnish weren't considered "white" until a Supreme Court decision in 1907 decided Finland had been invaded enough time that our tainted bloodlines were diluted with good Teutonic stock (yes, I've read the decision). There's a lot of unpleasantness in the past, but you can't let it influence you.

I'm not a true Boomer (my paternal grandfather was born in 1847), so maybe I have a long-term outlook. I have gotten a lot of flack for still having my idealism (and believe me, I know where the warts were in the 1960s-style activism), but it hasn't stopped me. I guess I'll just end up marching with the Millenials, because they are a better match than so many of the old cynics I see around me. Because that's how humans have come this far, over the millenia. Otherwise, we'd still be bashing in each other's heads with rocks, not that it still doesn't happen. It's just no longer the norm.

"Man's reach must exceed his grasp, or what's a Heaven for?" --Robert Browning

originally posted by: caterpillage
a reply to: Metallicus

The new gen is all for total socialism, it's like living with mommy and daddy forever!

Oh, it's far worse than that. Living with mommy and daddy is still pretty comfortable if you have easy going parents. The nanny state is not easy going. They will provide stuff but they will expect complete submission in return. Exactly like putting a bird in a golden cage and feeding and watering but never letting it out. Maybe a bird doesn't care but the human mind was not meant to be caged.