**BREAKING** MH370: “The possibility of intervention by a third party cannot be excluded.”

a reply to: tinner07

The aircraft has a magnetic compass. But without wreckage or data recorders there's no way to know why they turned in the first place. They may have deliberately turned, to look for an alternate landing site. If they depressurised there wouldn't be any calls, even if they were close enough to towers to work.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Ok So the pilot/co pilot have a working compass regardless of any electrical malfunctions. A major land mass appears to be to the north.

All passengers have the capability to phone a loved one.

The bit of water between Maylaysia and What Cambodia and or Viet Nam is less than the Great lakes. Surely they have lights on the coastal cities.

Just seems odd that nobody noticed that they were over the ocean as opposed to over land, and nobody made a call from the plane does it not?

I do not think you can make a movie called lost and not expect it to play out in real life in some fashion.

It is the way of the world.

a reply to: tinner07

No. Not without knowing WHY they were where they were. As I said, there may have been a damn good reason for it, but until we have some clues as to why, all we can do is speculate.

a reply to: Zaphod58

hey Zaph...is this the flight where the first thing amiss was online that the plane was hijacked or am I thinking of another plane

a reply to: research100

This was the one that they claimed the pilot flew out to sea and deliberately crashed it.

I remember flying to Europe recently and sat next to a Air NZ pilot of 25yrs who'd flown all types of passenger airliners

I asked him specifically, what do you think happened?


he said (and im paraphrasing)

'' the group of pilots I run with all believe that there were special forces on the plane. Those kinds of people would be able to access the cargo hold without issue. we believe that the people on the plane were starved of oxygen until unconscious, the plane was brought down to a safe flying level, then the cargo doors opened and cargo dropped out the back of the plane to a submarine that was waiting to pickup. The SAS also jumped out to be picked up by submarine and the plane flew until it ran out of fuel and ditched in the ocean ''

believe him or not, but it was a really interesting conversation we had for about an hour or so

a reply to: Agit8dChop

The issue with that theory is that even if you could open the door from inside the hold, you're risking catastrophic damage that wouldn't give you time to get anything out. At least one DC-10 crashed very shortly after the loose luggage hold door opened, and several other aircraft came damn close to crashing after doors opened in flight.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

A few pilots I know all referred me to a podcast episode of SOFREP - where the theory was posited that the pilot may have gotten down to about 5000 feet and flown in circles while asking his government to release some political opposition prisoner. The theory was basically that the government called his bluff and he ended up nosediving the plane into the ocean...

All that being said, I'm out of pocket and dont have time to pull up the article but it is on SOFREP.COM and its about MH370...

Listening to it sounded like a decent theory based on facts regarding the instruments and available data.

a reply to: SonOfThor
Like with most clusterflubs there's been an ongoing coverup since that airliner was still airborne. Now, an Aussie dowser and myself dowsed this problem as soon as I could download the photo files of the pilot, co=pilot, and the plane itself.

I got the first leg, O.K. Those hijackers had flown into Kualu Lumpur with recording GPS's on. So when they took over and blacked out the coms, they had to dodge back to the Straits of Malacca, to pick up their waypoints. Once there, they simply flew the reciprocal flight path towards Lahore, Pack. But with all the jumping and jiving, they ran low on fuel, and diverted to a mountain AF base in Northernmost India, and landed safely. But no one knew about the ACARS pinging the satellite, for a bit. It kept pinging beyond the time in the air, governed by the fuel load. But someone on the ground, finally killed it. Then near first light, after a midnight refueling, they took off, still blacked out, and flew down the west coast of India, before swinging out over the Maldives, and then went on a South Easternly track to a watery grave.

Besides the ACARS, a ship's officer saw that plane off of the Coast of India, and people living in the Maldives heard a large jet plane, flying low and slow, over their heads. The plane on the coast had Malaysian Air markings and paint schemes. But no one wants to accuse India of being part of this hijacking. In fact, we believe that the Indian A.F. panicked when a plane full of dead Chinese passengers touched down, unannounced that first night. If windows had blown out, there was no high altitudes left, so it was a long slog, at low altitudes, and slow speeds. Maybe they took the passengers out and buried them at or near that airfield, but I'm thinking that they just left them alone in their seats.

This makes a lot more sense if you plot these courses on a spherical Globe, with a length of string. Since the incoming flight to Kualu Lumpur was using Nav. aids, the reciprocal, blacked out one, using only GPS waypoints tried to follow that flight path precisely. But head winds aloft, at the lower altitudes, may also have shortened their time aloft, to where their plans to hit something important in or near Lahore, fell through.

a reply to: carpooler

Interesting - are you suggesting that hijackers landed a 777?

Also what runway did they land on that was rated to handle a 777?

I would like to share whit you my "crazy" theory : MH370 hijacked by "who knows who" ..people on that plane was killed, to keep it secret (easier then give em all new identities and pray to lord that they will never speak)..Then due to technology kidnapped mh17 whit all those AIDS specialist (to keep them silent, kill them or let them work under cover)

OT: I was told that the best way how to hire top brains into Above top secret project is to fake their death ( most used plot is that you die in fire , or drown especialy in 3th world countriest where is easier to cover investigation )

Then they load MH370 whit dead bodies and change it to MH17(transponder switch ? who knows how advanced are these military tech) and shut the plane down above Ukraine..

This theory is really "the darkest" i can imagine..

its good (for them) in two things..

1 - Those scientists in MH17 was going to show advances in curing of AIDS - need to be stopped for obvious reasons and impact of that study

2- Shooting down MH17 and blame Russia - to justify almost everything in politics (sanctions, new laws for "security" in different countries, more money to military complex etc.)


BTW This "BLAME RUSSIA , PUTIN" campaign is ridiculous I dont know how can anyone believe it...


Sometimes it looks like that Russia is responsible for almost everything... started whit expulsion of Adam and Eve from Eden and ending whit Global Warming..

4theRecord: I am not a russian (if someone suggest ) i am from Czech Republic .. a country ones ocuppied whit Soviet Union... and i have to say.. I still look up to Russians more then to for example USA... after 20+ years USA gone completly mad (I think because of neocons and they " Project for the New American Century (PNAC)" )

I dont blame regular people ever, it doesnt even matter from waht country you are.... because we are all victims ,, raised in this f*cked up systems,indoctrinated,brainwashed to believe what they want us to believe.. whit no individual power, we all know that there is something very wrong , but we dont know how to stop it.. We desperately need someone to guide us to the right direction

All the passengers phones have the option to funktion as a gps tracker and see last known location, and even My cheap car have built in trackers. It should not be possible a plane of this type go missing

a reply to: Zaphod58

What about the engines through?

My thinking being if there was a serious enough electrical issue to disrupt power to both transponder units, thus enable the drop down prop turbine to engage, then would it also affect the engines?

If so, those two Trent 800 engines which allegedly sent data for another 4 hours after MH370s last known location must have been getting juice from somewhere.

Hence my thought that some kind of third-party tampering or human factor was at play regarding the transponders.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Ah, the Boeing Uninterruptible Autopilot. The gift that keeps on giving.

Boeing says it hasn't been installed on any commercial planes, but given that modern jets are completely computer-controlled, I can't imagine this is much more than a computer module that needs to be plugged in.

Heck, it's possible it might even been a matter of a software upgrade, a la Tesla unlocking features for those willing to pay extra.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It's much more supposedly. It requires a separate power supply, among other things. And is a really really stupid idea to boot.

a reply to: andy06shake

The engines would keep running even without electrical power to the cockpit.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

It's much more supposedly. It requires a separate power supply, among other things. And is a really really stupid idea to boot.

I'm skeptical of that story. We can already do this with many electric cars, and even some gasoline-powered ones. All the communications systems already exist on the plane. Since everything is "fly-by-wire", the computer could be programmed to ignore the cockpit controls if the system is engaged.

You're right, it's a terrible idea. But technically it's not hard to implement.

All except for that "pesky" left turn off western Indonesia. Other than that "slight" complication all the theories of technical malfunction work. Add that one in and all those theories crash and burn just like MH370. So, that leaves two choices:

1. Don't believe the left turn, and you accept they are looking in the absolute WRONG location.

2. Believe they are looking in the correct location, and you accept someone made that left turn west of Indonesia (i.e. conscious control of the aircraft).

You only get to choose ONE!

ETA - Pretty ironic actually that all of the confirmed wreckage found so far has been well west of the search area. Hmmmmmm.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

No one ever said it was. But no airline is going to pay the extra money for a system like that. Supposedly it's for hijacking situations, which are so exceedingly rare anymore it's not funny.