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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: SlapMonkey
I never assume it is easy, an LEO or police officer in UK (to which I have family who have served and currently serving), if my words were flippant and lacking in substance that is the fault of my education not my love and respect for people who protect others on a daily basis.
I can understand where you say he made his own choice but I disagree slightly, his choice was to be a criminal (I dont respect his choice myself), criminals should be punished befitting the crime, being shot at first makes it hard for me to justify, as we then move into hypothetical, what if he did this, what if he did that
I never want to be judged on what if he did this next attitude, judge me on what actions I have done nothing more
Maybe in this case he has a rap sheet as long and disgusting as a seriuos criminal, we cant let emotion decide the severity of his punishment.
I would not want that for you or I, therefore in a civilised society I have to offer the same (thru gritted teeth) to the criminals of this world, 12 men and women and one judge
originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Skywatcher2011
If someone is not guilty of anything, there's no reason for anyone to refuse answering questions, resist a body search, or run from the police. This guy was guilty of all three.
originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Skywatcher2011
What are my thoughts on this? Do I think the Cops acted criminally?
My take on this is that while there may be some justification for the shooting after the encounter went south, I doubt that, but its possible, the cops may not have acted criminally, but they behaved unbelievably stupidly in having ever engaged this guy in the first place! What did he do wrong? If I remember correcty, a Cop came out of a store and observed this victim, a Barber, hand someone a cigarette at which point she confronts the guy and says its illegal to sell individual cigarettes.
Really? This cops got nothing better than do than worry about individual sales of cigs?
That 's just utterly ridiculous and it wreaks of intentional harassment of someone, for whatever reason. And yea, probably because he's black! And that aggravates me to no end for the plain and simple reason that I've been harassed and intimidated by TSA simply because I'm an older white guy and they're all POC and see their positions as an opportunity to pay it back the bad treatment they've gotten from white cops!
originally posted by: Blueracer
originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Skywatcher2011
If someone is not guilty of anything, there's no reason for anyone to refuse answering questions, resist a body search, or run from the police. This guy was guilty of all three.
I disagree with part of that. If someone is not guilty they should not have to be body searched.