People are Fake, nobody cares for the Thai boys that were trapped in the caves

I find it oddly ironic that all these people were hoping and praying for the safety of these Thai boys in a cave. However
if you put those same Thai boys on our border, or in a cage in America it would be a different story.

The sad thing, it isn't a different story. It is exactly the same. These kids didn't make the choice and are not capable of the choice.
It is parents or adults that did. No matter what you feel about border control or immigration, kids are kids.
It sickens me to see all the people and companies trying to steal "glory" regarding the rescue of these kids.

There are tons and tons of kids worldwide that need saving. Throw a dart and you'll find a place kids need help. If you want to keep thing patriotic, just hop down to Florida. There are some counties where 98% of kids are are free and reduced meals. They are barely making it. Send some of your rescue money there. Go to the inner cities and spend some on education, safety nets, anything that might give these kids a chance. But you see, that doesn't get publicity or the feels.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I just wonder where all this outrage was before the media instructed you all be outraged. Hell, the picture used to kick it all off was taken in 2014.....

Maybe you could start some parenting classes?

What is this rant even about?

The cave thing is a logistical nightmare, that required some expertise.

The border kids parents need their a@@es beat for committing crimes with their kids.

The "think of the children" open borders, bring in more democrat, socialist voters that are dumb enough to vote against their own rights 'cause feelings scam doesn't fly with me.

Idk wth you are talking about with the FL statement either. Can you clarify that one?

a reply to: JAGStorm

So you're saying I can't be glad someone isn't dead unless they come live with me ?
OK.

I think the coach who brought the boys in there should be canned. Risk assessment should be done better. I see people ignoring risk assessment all the time in this country these days, risk assessment was taught much more back when I was young.

a reply to: Thejoncrichton

The media instructed nothing. My point was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the public. Either you care about kids or you don't, can't have it both ways.

fyi, I come from a time before social media and had outrage back then. I've also lived in places other than the United States, so when I say I have seen poverty, I have seen poverty. I've seen toddlers with Aids that nobody would adopt because there was no medicine or cure.

a reply to: JAGStorm

so you're comparing kids facings imminent danger in a cave with no food water or adequate supplies to get out, with kids temporarily detained to be returned to their home countries with their families because they entered the country illegally?

you can't compare social issues with accidents. its a different context.

the thai rescue can be done in a matter of days, feeding the poor and helping disenfranchised children in a country or the world, takes a bit more logistically and financially.

a reply to: JAGStorm

That was one of the few times when everyone in America, except for CNN, united to pray for a good outcome for those boys.

It's too bad that there is a subset of people in this country that don't care about all the harm, injuries and death that illegal aliens are delivering upon our children and overall population.

a reply to: rickymouse

Rickymouse, I think you're the only one who caught my drift!

a reply to: carewemust

Except for cnn?

Are you saying that cnn wanted a bad outcome?

And you have definitive evidence of this?

Oh and it’s a shame that there’s a subset group of people that support a church that institutionalised the rape of thousands of children.

But hey let’s ignore that...

a reply to: JAGStorm

I understand what you are saying and I think you are completely correct.

People are fake. Too fake.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I have to say, this approach to this topic is really a sad reflection on how you view the world.

I don't pray, but I did watch with baited breath every day while it unfolded, and I'm still concerned for those boys in the hospital. I felt pain for their parents while they had to helplessly wait to see if their child would emerge from the cave alive or dead. I felt pain for the family of Saman Gunan as he died in attempts to keep those boys alive.

But at the same time, I'm also capable to be sympathetic and empathetic in my own community and country, I'm capable of donating to multiple causes at the same time, and I'm capable of donating my own time and efforts to things while being concerned about things on a national scale.

So, I fail to see the irony of such a situation, but I will absolutely note that there's no exclusivity in any actions or problems that you mention--we can focus on more than one crisis at a time.

Also, your assertion that if these same boys were in cages in America, that people wouldn't be concerned on their behalf, is about as silly as you can be. But, sure, why not--keep being divisive for no good reason. That's a tactic working well in America these days.

ETA: If risk assessment was your point, you didn't deliver it very well.

a reply to: JAGStorm

What I find Ironic is the USA currently has 428,000 adoptable children - that need a home

Adoption Statistics

Seems to me that is 428,000 too many but yet for some reason the left wants more .....

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: JAGStorm

That was one of the few times when everyone in America, except for CNN, united to pray for a good outcome for those boys.

It's too bad that there is a subset of people in this country that don't care about all the harm, injuries and death that illegal aliens are delivering upon our children and overall population.

Oh, Democrats know exactly what the outcome of unfiltered imimigration will cause.
They just don't care because statistically they will vote D.

We need some treason type charges against these guys, so they know we aren't playing.

I wouldn't be past guessing it's both sides behind it, trying to cause dysfunction/chaos as another long list of drama like they are with racism, sexism, ism, isms, so people keep chasing their tales and not catching on to the tax theft going on in the country in every single thing the gov can find.

a reply to: JAGStorm
Were they in the cave illegally?
Was the cave situated in a different country?
Did their parents force them into said cave?

Your comparison is unfortunately completely unfounded.
I personally didn't care much. Perhaps if I was from Thai decent or lived close by, but I'm not and I don't...

I thought it was a great media destraction though...

a reply to: odzeandennz

And one of the really sad things is that their countries receive tens of millions of dollars in foreign aid, but corrupt politicians and gawd knows who else, get their sticky corrupt fingers on it, and the children are helpless.

BTW, comparing those Thai boys predicament to the predicament of children south of our border is apples to oranges.

Corruption and Big World Slush Funds that politicians and administrators can dip their nasty fingers into are a big part of the problem.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Most of the people outraged about the kids at the border were completely fine with Obama helping to topple Syria and Libya.

Yes there is no shortage of hypocrisy in this country.

a reply to: JAGStorm

So...

Kids trapped in cave while on field trip is equal to kids locked in cage because people took them across international borders illegally?

These two things seem entirely incomparable.

And as to people not really caring.

lifehacker.com...

www.theemotionmachine.com...

a reply to: JAGStorm

I get where you're coming from. It seems absurd when we focus our attentions on one problem when millions of others need it more urgently.

Another way of looking at it is there are too many problems to fix all at once. A small act of charity can be a start, right?

Have you ever spent five minutes on a GoFundMe site? Man, there's page after page of people crying out for help. You could blow a $million in an hour without moving the needle on global desperation. People can only do so much...

a reply to: JAGStorm
Why on earth do you assume no one cares about the kids at the border? I'm sure pretty much everyone, even the most diehard conservative Trump supporter does.

People are simply asking for due process to take place. If there are laws against border jumping, they needed to be enforced.