Cultural Marxism':

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

So, let's look at your rhetorical strategy here in your response:

You rephrase what I said ...

You generalize both what I said and the erstwhile topic to a phrasing that fits with your argument ...

You then make a ludicrous jump to Godwin's "law" ... and attempt to use rather unsubtle irony to emphasize your actual point which is that ANTIFA are Nazis.

Does that sum it up?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Its what I've been saying across this thread, its what I've been writing books of material about on here for two years since the moment I stepped out of my 5 year time capsule and took note of Planet SJW for the first time:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

They're all 'wearing the same clothes just with different colors'.

Their brains are wired up the same just with different ideas of who to love and who to HATE.

Etc.

Godwin's Law is reality, because ideological groups have this tendency to turn towards supremacist. Especially when supremacism is the design, which when there's hardliner appeal to mass social group identity that is the design. And that's why right out the gates the SJ Movement turned rabid goosetepping anti-free speech, and so on.

Check out that link, and pay close attention to the "Nu-Nazi's" section and the screaming parallels to the organizational methods between how the OG Nazi Movement hijacked their system (and the social response as it adhered to the methodology) and that of the SJW movement (and the social response as it adhered to the methodology).

Cant even make this snip up.

originally posted by: ketsuko
For more proof ...

We have nothing to lose but our chains ... Here is whole page of YouTube vids of minority causes chanting "We have nothing to lose but our chains" which is a slogan taken from the Communist Manifesto.

That is where Marxism went.

The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

This is where it is. The movement is social now, not worker related.

Communism is back? Where?

Don't forget to swallow the rest of your PR Creme Bernays, you have a status quo to protect and serve.

a reply to: Spider879

Nazis spoke German.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Another day, another infomercial.

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Spider879

So embrace Marxism to ensure the Nazis don't win?

LOL

It's funny when the internet revisionist history pits two groups of socialists against each other and believes that magically makes one of the groups no longer socialist. Communism, socialism, Marxism is all for losers and is all a sure way to destroy this country, culturally and economically... they can all take a flying leap off a cliff and we'd be better for it.

What is, so-called, Cultural Marxism? In the US (or the West) today. Describe it's causes and actions and the conditions it arises from, pleas.

I always thought it was good ol’ Marxism, but applied to cultural and social institutions rather than economic ones. Things like political correctness, identity politics, critical theory fall under this term. But I could be wrong. I’ve never heard it used in a technical sense, nor have I used it myself.

When you use the term cultural Marxism, you are espousing Nazi propaganda, the same propaganda and conspiracy they used to make the Jews the enemy of Germany back in the 30's, just so you know where your gammon buzzwords come from

originally posted by: Shminkee Pinkee
When you use the term cultural Marxism, you are espousing Nazi propaganda, the same propaganda and conspiracy they used to make the Jews the enemy of Germany back in the 30's, just so you know where your gammon buzzwords come from

That’s false. The use of the term “cultural Marxism” as a conspiracy theory started with paleoconcervatives in the late 90s.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Spider879

Nazis spoke German.

Very cute, but I said New Nazis.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Look at these groups and the ideologies they espouse. They are all about tearing down, but nothing at all about building up.

The dominant cultural groups are oppressive! We have to tear them down and deconstruct ...

OK, fine. Let's go with that, but what is the solution? The only thing I ever hear is constructing an economy that works for all, but there is *never* any answer as to what that is.

These groups are so far gone into their search for dominant group oppression now that they're publishing papers on how math is white oppressive, ranting about it's male patriarchal oppressive to have female anatomy named for the men who first described those anatomical features and working their hardest to obliterate gender/sex lines and distinctions in all things, even the language.

The end game is what they call equality, but it's really an attempt at legally forced equity or everyone is the same - in all ways, no matter what. No gender, no sex, no race ... well unless you're a victim class and then some distinctions are held up (all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others).

The thing is that not all of us are the same, not all of us are intended to be the same, and it is impossible for us to be the same. Humans are not manufactured in an assembly line but by a messy process of genetics in which some of us will excel at some things.

Further you complicate the process through nurture and culture is part of that. How many kids are spending their summers in enrichment? Mine is basically taking a series of 3-hour coding classes every morning this week. It's supplementing the science camp he's in for another 6 weeks. We haven't let him stop reading to us like he does through the school year.

How many other kids are simply sitting on the couch watching TV or playing video games? How many gifts and talents are languishing rather than being fed one way or another?

But these people want everyone to be the same in every way meaning my kid shouldn't be any better off than those kids who aren't doing anything more than playing GTA all summer on the couch.

originally posted by: Shminkee Pinkee
When you use the term cultural Marxism, you are espousing Nazi propaganda, the same propaganda and conspiracy they used to make the Jews the enemy of Germany back in the 30's, just so you know where your gammon buzzwords come from

Exactly!!! Back to basics..

a reply to: Spider879

And by continuing down this route, how are you any better? The only group it is allowed to freely hate on are Nazis, so you try your best to paint others are Nazis now so that you can hate them and dehumanize them. In short, you become what you claim to hate.

a reply to: ketsuko


In order to hate, there has to be a justification for it.

Even if the justification is contrived.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Spider879

And by continuing down this route, how are you any better? The only group it is allowed to freely hate on are Nazis, so you try your best to paint others are Nazis now so that you can hate them and dehumanize them. In short, you become what you claim to hate.

No no no and NO!.. true I hate Nazis and other like minded ppl because they are the antithesis of everything I hold dear, I do not call folks out like that for simply disagreeing with me, I've have studied their handy work.. and as you know I fancy myself an amateur historian, so when I found language that tied them ie New Nazis trying to infiltrate Conservative thought ,which is neither good nor bad, just different IMO, but is being unknowingly usurped by them in some Insidious manner , I have to tap you guys on the shoulder and ask..are you down with that?? do you know where and how that meme get to be??..you see I want to have that dialog between us, but that does not include them!! .! ..just because we don't see eye to eye does not make you them.. I wished someone else closer to you guy's POV would tap you folks on your shoulders instead of me, which you will most likely ignore simply because it's coming from me.

I don't care what you call this or who supports what. I'm going to be against cultural marxism because I believe it is evil. Nazis did not bring me to this belief. This thread is garbage.

a reply to: Spider879

So which part of Nazism do you hate?

The collectivism?

The command & control posture?

The censorship?

Their staunch appeal to victimhood / identity politics?

The over the top propaganda style?

Their systemic cradle to grave indoctrination?

The authoritarianism?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Another day, another infomercial.

What am I selling exactly? To see thru these sorts of things with this level of clarity, to always be on the outs, to walk the talk, in this world, it has cost me more than you could even imagine.

You've been talking a lot lately about being all middle of the road reason person, well these formula I'm throwing down the gauntlet on is the groupthink social control the extremes (hell even the moderates it seems) use to manipulate and hoodwink the populace (any populace, every populace).

a reply to: Spider879

It has nothing to do with it coming from you.

It has everything to do with what I see happening. You don't like the people who work in opposition to what you think is right, so you are fumbling desperately for a way to delegitimize it.

Hey! If I can find a way to link it to Nazism ... then I no longer have to actually address it. I can simply dismiss it and dismiss those who argue it.

After all, what you are insinuating throughout this entire thread is that because the term itself *may* have originated from Nazis ... then everything it's connected to must also be Nazi-based and therefore if you believe in it ... well, if the shoe fits and all ...

And you see others here following right along those lines.

You've ignored every very valid concern raised about what Cultural Marxism is. You've only stuck yourself on where you think it comes from.

I tell you bluntly and plainly -- the counter voice in forced collectivization, very likely on top of a genocide at this rate. The people who think they are fighting the forces of fascism (you know people who don't like Cultural Marxism), are trending dangerously toward erasing everything they think is wrong with the world, including the dominant cultural groups.

The Nazis did that too with a cultural group they blamed all their problems on, but we won't mention that in all our finger-pointing on where the real fascists lie.

All the above.

When it comes to the phrase "cultural marxism" I'm reminded The Right is equally as foolish in believing lies as the Left is.