The White Tribes of Ancient China

Came across this and thought it was pretty cool. China has a lot of history but you don't always hear much about it. It doesn't surprise me there are finds like these but this is the first i've heard of this. The mummies are really awesome too. Really well preserved.

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4,000 Year Old Lost Tribe

One of the most fantastic finds in the last half of the twentieth century has to be the discovery of a Northern European tribe found in the northeast corner of Xinjiang province, near the Celestial Mountains and the Taklimakan Desert on the edge of the Gobi desert.

The story starts in 1978 when the Chinese archaeologist, Wang Binghus, started searching for ancient sites. He began by following stream beds, and asking the locals if they had ever come across any broken pots and artifacts. He eventually came across a few people who pointed out that there was a place called Qizilchoqa, or, as the local people called it, Red hill. Here he made the most amazing discovery, the first of the mummies. It had been placed in a grave on the side of the hill.

They had been placed in the ground, which had been subjected to a unique weather system. Heat, aridity, and bitter winter cold, mixed with a salty soil, had preserved them better than other mummies found around the world. Even the clothing was still perfectly recognizable.

The faces of the mummies were very well preserved, so, on closer examination, they could see that they were not Chinese. They had blonde hair, big eyes, and European noses.

At that time, Chinese tradition had always shown the fact that they believed China had developed independently from the rest of the world. Because of this, the government was reluctant to bring the finds to the public attention.

The most extraordinary thing about the mummies was the fact that their clothes were in such good condition. A jacket belonging to one man, over three thousand years old, still had a crimson edge. And the women had artificial extensions in their hair.

This tribe was obviously very advanced for its day. On one of the mummies, there is a scar which shows they had rudimentary operating skills. It had been sown up with horses hair.

These people were from the Bronze age, they were Caucasian, and it is possible that they interacted with the indigenous people at that time. The local people probably taught them their traditions, and the Caucasians most likely introduced them to their way of life as well.

There were two cartwheels found at the burial sites, very similar to what you might find in Russia, or nearby countries. These amazing people were probably Scandinavian or German; it is amazing to think that they trekked across China all the way from Europe, 4,000 years ago, taking their traditions and language with them. How many other tribes were there? Who knows?

And just a couple last pictures

Is this the original Witches hat that has come down through history? 

a reply to: dug88

The level of the preservation is unreal. Nice find. I remember also hearing about a Roman Legion making its way to China as well and settling there.

What an amazing find. In those pictures, those people look so peaceful and at rest. They look like turn-of-the century Frontier settlers from the USA. I wonder what they were fleeing from in order to make that move to China?

originally posted by: stormcell
What an amazing find. In those pictures, those people look so peaceful and at rest. They look like turn-of-the century Frontier settlers from the USA. I wonder what they were fleeing from in order to make that move to China?

Why did they have to be fleeing...maybe they were indigenous and were there before the Chineese we see there today.

Holy sh-- that is crazy! Are they SURE those mummies are 4,000 years old?? I mean, facial hair! That guy still has facial hair! And the woman with the braids...just crazy how well-preserved they are, if they are truly 4000 years old.

I'm interested in the clothes too...does the article say what they are made from?

Thanks for posting this!

a reply to: dug88
The map locates the site near the northern edge of the Tarim basin, which is really the historical bridging route between ancient China and the western end of the continent.
So I don't think it's at all surprising that wanderers from the west should have found their way there, even at an early date. It doesn't necessarily affect the origin stories of China proper.

a reply to: dug88


That is why Hitler and the Nazis went looking for "proof" and to steal their secrets...

Thanks for the post!

I've not had the pleasure of seeing these up close yet but hope to early next year when I travel up to that part of China.

Not surprising the gov't here didn't want to let anyone know about the find. The CCP always ignores facts and can't deal with reality.

There's a number of finds around China that dispute the official narrative of China's history and once in awhile they manage to leak to the outside world.

a reply to: dug88


The first mummy looks like Saruman the White from Lord of the rings.

The second one looks like Sandor Clegane AKA the Hound.

The thrid one reminds my of Native Americans.

Fourth one? Stylish French Lady?

The fifth one, that is definity Heidi's Dad.

Sweet, now to do as the CPC loves to do.

Claim Ancient Ancestral Heritage...


"Dis old cracker lands now new cracker land."

Sounds like it may have inhabitants of Tatar (Tartar).

www.google.com...=yW85 8a0DwcydUM:

They had a huge territory that included Northwestern China all the way to Russia. What information is available about the Tatars shows them to be a multicultural melting pot.

a reply to: dug88

They are incredibly beautiful!!

DNA showed they were mixed with maternal genes from Western Europe, South Siberia and also Mongolia.

The most common haplogroup was from South Siberia, C. They also had one Indian, M5.

Haplogroup H is very common all over West Europe, including Spain, France, UK and Northern countries.

This is a politically disputed region in China and DNA actually shows the population from the Russian steppe contributed more to their genes. Current inhabitants claim to be culturally different from the rest of China, and now they can also say they are genetically different.

-- DNA Analysis --

Whites are not tribes. They are religion creators and temple builders who enslave tribal people into civilization, taxes and tithes.

originally posted by: Agartha
a reply to: dug88

They are incredibly beautiful!!

DNA showed they were mixed with maternal genes from Western Europe, South Siberia and also Mongolia.

The most common haplogroup was from South Siberia, C. They also had one Indian, M5.

Haplogroup H is very common all over West Europe, including Spain, France, UK and Northern countries.

This is a politically disputed region in China and DNA actually shows the population from the Russian steppe contributed more to their genes. Current inhabitants claim to be culturally different from the rest of China, and now they can also say they are genetically different.

-- DNA Analysis --

Oh, like Agafia Lykov's people eh? Or, da?

originally posted by: whitewave
Sounds like it may have inhabitants of Tatar (Tartar).

www.google.com...=yW85 8a0DwcydUM:

They had a huge territory that included Northwestern China all the way to Russia. What information is available about the Tatars shows them to be a multicultural melting pot.

They undoubtedly were in the Tater territory except the empire was founded by Genghis Khan in the 1200s AD and these people are 2000 BC. They may have been Turks. The main place I remember seeing pointed hats like that are the Scythians so who were they descended from?

I believe the entire eastward push from India to Indochina was fueled by trade along what would later become the silk road.

As far as Tartaria being a melting pot, I don't think they had any multicultural ideals beyond the goal of conquering the entire world. The most multicultural institution they had was probably the army which left thousands of rape babies in their wake.

a reply to: toms54

Actually, Ghengis Khan became ruler when he defeated Un Khan and there were rulers before then, as well.

Also, our timeline of history seems to be greatly skewed and not at all reliable.

The "witches hat" looks to be Phyrigian. www.google.com...

originally posted by: whitewave
a reply to: toms54

Actually, Ghengis Khan became ruler when he defeated Un Khan and there were rulers before then, as well.

Also, our timeline of history seems to be greatly skewed and not at all reliable.

The "witches hat" looks to be Phyrigian. www.google.com...

If you believe our timeline of history seems to be greatly skewed and not at all reliable, do you have any thoughts about when these mummies were alive?

I've been doing a lot of reading about chronology over the past year and so far haven't been able to get any real time frame for anything BC. That's not to say I know of any reason these mummies can't be 4000 years old. I do, however, believe most events from 1 - 1200 AD were probably more recent than we are taught.

a reply to: dug88

Ex thank you stuff like this is why I joined this site all them many years ago .

originally posted by: Prene
Whites are not tribes. They are religion creators and temple builders who enslave tribal people into civilization, taxes and tithes.

They certainly were tribes 2000 years before Christianity was a thing.

a reply to: Prene

Tell that to the Celts.