I left my crap in San Francisco

a reply to: Bigburgh

This was 4 month prior to the volcano eruption.

Yes. There's a reason for that. Have you seen the volcano hazard map? Waterfront for under a million? There's a reason for that.


But I was talking about Oahu.

originally posted by: dreamingawake

originally posted by: notsure1
a reply to: MemoryShock

They stand a better chance of finding work that pays enough to afford rent .. so yeah they probably should..

The more rural areas aren't exactly known for having a lot of available employment. I'm betting many came from areas in such as that state in hopes to find work. Others were locals priced out of their childhood homes and neighborhoods.

Maybe they can find work at a grocery store or gas station in the rural areas, because better paying jobs are kept by people throughout their lives in those areas-had to get into unless you know someone. If you're stuck in the service sector of employment for example, sometimes you can't pay your bills and are working from paycheck to paycheck even though rent is more affordable than the big cities.

Apparently a good amount of the homeless in cities are people seeking a better life(rather than staying in bumf# Oklahoma working as a janitor only affording to live with parents) not considering/under estimating the consequences if they don't make it with a six figure income. For some even if they are paid well, the rents and cost of living still isn't enough to comfortably live.

The homeless problem in cities is more complex than these videos make it out to be. As will be the solution that cities are looking into, from funding to housing.

Rural ?? That is in Kansas city missouri. What is rural about KCMO?

a reply to: notsure1

Missouri has $7.85 minimum wage, comparative to some states(and cities that it varies in) isn't much for some people.

I'm saying in general about rural areas, surely outside of there it has rural areas for if people can't afford that price for a house. There are rural housing(HUD loans) but not for larger cities where in some states/smaller cities where houses sell for around $40 thousand dollars, though employment is another issue with those locations.

originally posted by: anonentity
It seems the homeless problem in San Fran. Is getting so bad the City has accepted that this is the new normal . It also seems that its affecting tourism. A few blocks away from Twitter HQ, people are injecting Heroin and crapping on the side walk, the Cops cant arrest such a large percentage of the population, and the Spice just keeps flowing from the poppy fields of Afghanistan. Are the soldiers there to protect the fields so unscrupulous people can garnish the last buck from the addicted and dispossessed ?

Actually 100% of the heroin in Afghanistan goes to EU and other non-US places.

According to the DEA, the majority of the heroin consumed in the United States comes from Mexico (50%) and Colombia (43-45%) via Mexican criminal cartels such as Sinaloa Cartel.

One wonders if the US should declare Cartels as "terrorists"

originally posted by: notsure1

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP
Yeah. Because only San Francisco has homeless opiate addicts.

In America Only Cali has it this bad.

I always said if I am ever homeless Im moving to Cali. Alot of people think like that I guess lol..

Actually those with money and brains and don't want to be jailed , they head for Oahu. If there every was a decent place to be homeless, it truly is Oahu. Fine weather, food stamps, clean outdoor toilet facilities with showers and a few church groups feeding you rice and other I think "doped" up food, but hey, violence among the homeless is rare there and I think that is one of the reasons. Plus the Mission which gets it food from the hotels is pretty darn good most of the time.

Want to enjoy your life and an easy but kind of boring life, head for Oahu.

a reply to: MemoryShock

Thanks and as far as I know where I'm at the big city influence(which my countie's voters told off on a no vote) has more to do with, as you are mentioning, classism- gentrifying- rather than partisan politicians only.

originally posted by: dreamingawake
a reply to: Raggedyman

When's the last time you've been to San Fran if even? LOL For example, Videos do not make a representation of a place overall and those sites are restricted to some areas.

How about a solution to the rampant homelessness in which are not all drug users, and that many of them are working but can't afford housing, etc? Or could go on supporting the Failed War on Drugs and the Prison Industrial Complex.

Two months ago and the OP isn't wrong. San Fran is pretty bad and I've witnesses it with my own eyes.

a reply to: Xtrozero

One wonders if the DEA statistics are reliable.

Your source, which you failed to link, the next sentence, which you failed include. An honest error, I'm sure.

However, these statistics may be significantly unreliable, the DEA's 50/50 split between Colombia and Mexico is contradicted by the amount of hectares cultivated in each country and in 2014, the DEA claimed most of the heroin in the US came from Colombia

en.wikipedia.org...

tsk. tsk.

originally posted by: Phage
In America Only Cali has it this bad.

In Portland they became a homeless friendly city, but didn't put any funds towards helping them. Lots of business leaving the city. The cool part is they are now trying to help at least at some level. I don't know why the cities don't put up at least port a potties.

Last time I looked Humans need a place to sleep, #, pee, eat and wash... I think a lot of cities forgot about that part.

a reply to: Xtrozero

But only the liberal cities. Right?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xtrozero

One wonders if the DEA statistics are reliable.

Your source, which you failed to link:

However, these statistics may be significantly unreliable, the DEA's 50/50 split between Colombia and Mexico is contradicted by the amount of hectares cultivated in each country and in 2014, the DEA claimed most of the heroin in the US came from Colombia

en.wikipedia.org...

tsk. tsk.

I don't see Afghanistan anywhere in your posts...that was my point.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xtrozero

But only the liberal cities. Right?

Probably 😌

originally posted by: Phage

But only the liberal cities. Right?

I don't think I used the word liberal in my post. I live near Portland so I have personal understanding, and that is why I used them as my example.

I really don't care what city. When I see all businesses put codes on their bathrooms I need to ask were do the homeless #?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Did you see it in the wiki paragraph which you partially quoted?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Well...um...


That's a good point.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xtrozero

Did you see it in the wiki paragraph which you partially quoted?

Actually I was lazy and just grabbed this...lol



The bottom line is it pisses me off to see any business combo lock their bathrooms, cities ignore the sanitary needs, create no over night areas so on and so on. If you can't fix it then at least support it with as much as you can.

Maybe in LA all the rich people can set up a couple of port-a-potties if they ever stop patting themselves in the back over their 300 bucks lunch talking about how emphatic they are with the homeless.

a reply to: Arnie123

Oh okay, but what does Raggedyman have to say I wonder.

Last time I was there, not too long ago, this wasn't a problem wholly throughout the city.

originally posted by: Bigburgh

originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: Phage

Are we talking island realistate?

This was my bucket list.. it's gone now
HAWAI‘I – WAI‘ŌPAE TIDEPOOLS

2 bedroom 1 bath $680K...

Something does not ad up when I could buy Pacific Beachfront for less than a shanty in San Francisco..

This was 4 month prior to the volcano eruption. The cost of living in California is ridiculous...
What are they weeding out?

Investors from China are buying up properties in San Francisco and the Bay Area as blind investments. At the same time the population in the Bay Area is getting older and those between 40 and 60 don't want to move homes. Then there are those buying up homes and renting them out to singles for $1500/room per month.

geocurrents.info...

You only need to see a density map of the Bay Area to see that while San Francisco has super-high population density of over 15.00 to 146.00 people per 900 square/meters, other parts of the Bay Area are completely uninhabited due to being zoned as national parks and being mountain ranges.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Phage
In America Only Cali has it this bad.

In Portland they became a homeless friendly city, but didn't put any funds towards helping them. Lots of business leaving the city. The cool part is they are now trying to help at least at some level. I don't know why the cities don't put up at least port a potties.

Last time I looked Humans need a place to sleep, #, pee, eat and wash... I think a lot of cities forgot about that part.

Homeless people start living in them, or use them as shoot-up rooms and overdose, then when the caretakers try and clean them, they find a dead body inside. Cities tried providing housing. Homeless shelters don't work because the homeless don't want to live together due to the fear of theft and assault. Micro-homes aren't safe because they are fire traps and for health reasons, humans need 18 cubic feet of air per hour. Disused army bases converted into luxury chalets with their own kitchens and bedrooms were another proposed solution, but aren't wanted because they are too remote.

a reply to: Phage

Nope. But it may make solving other problems more difficult. If the jobs a homeless person would get are taken by immigrants then what will they do?

Every day walking to work I see 30 construction workers none of whom speak English. I'd rather those jobs go to Americans first.