Volcanic heat found under Antarctica's Pine Island Glacier

University of Rhode Island’s Graduate School of Oceanography and five other scientists have found an active volcanic heat source underneath the Pine Island Glacier in Antarctica.
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Brice Loose of Newport, a chemical oceanographer at GSO states, “We were looking to better understand the role of the ocean in melting the ice shelf,” Loose said. “I was sampling the water for five different noble gases, including helium and xenon. I use these noble gases to trace ice melt as well as heat transport. Helium-3, the gas that indicates volcanism…as the team conducted its research, it found high quantities of an isotope of helium, which comes almost exclusively from mantle. When you find helium-3, it’s like a fingerprint for volcanism. We found that it is relatively abundant in the seawater at the Pine Island shelf.”

The researcher says that that heat energy released by the volcanoes and hydrothermal vents suggests that the heat source beneath Pine Island is about 25 times greater than the bulk of heat flux from an individual dormant volcano. “Yet there are several decades of research documenting the heat from ocean currents is destabilizing Pine Island Glacier, which in turn appears to be related to a change in the climatological winds around Antarctica,” Loose said. Instead, this evidence of volcanism is a new factor to consider when monitoring the stability of the ice sheet.

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LOL....now they are setting the stage to Nuke the ruins in Antarctica and tell us all it is a volcanic eruption....lol....anything to keep the truths hidden.

a reply to: Violater1

Your quote from the article is oddly truncated. Here is the full statement:

However, Loose cautions, this does not imply that volcanism is the major source of mass loss from Pine Island. On the contrary, “there are several decades of research documenting the heat from ocean currents is destabilizing Pine Island Glacier, which in turn appears to be related to a change in the climatological winds around Antarctica,” Loose said. Instead, this evidence of volcanism is a new factor to consider when monitoring the stability of the ice sheet.

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The volcanic heat is exacerbating ice loss which is being primarily caused by warm ocean currents.

Shhh, volcanoes don't melt ice or cause changes to glaciers ... only MMGW does that!

Oh, I see Phage beat me to it. Only he's serial!

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Shhh, volcanoes don't melt ice or cause changes to glaciers ... only MMGW does that!

Really? I hadn't heard that.
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Wait Antarctic is melting and it's not my fault?
I'm confused. I thought my very existence threatened the planet? I need an armchair climate specialist to set me straight...
Phage?

Just think Hypothetically Antarctica could cause another great flood, "Nearly 100 Hidden Volcanoes Detected Beneath Antarctic Ice." Wouldn't it be awesome if they all went at once?

Wait that would cause Nuclear winter ....

yup!!!

this goes right along with the maunder minimum theory and global cooling theory

the ice melt in Atlantis has to do with underwater/land volcano's this has been being speculate for a while and there is more to come, gotta wonder why the USGS had has been silenced and why they haven't been reporting on a lot of activity

originally posted by: Gargoyle91
Just think Hypothetically Antarctica could cause another great flood, "Nearly 100 Hidden Volcanoes Detected Beneath Antarctic Ice." Wouldn't it be awesome if they all went at once?

Wait that would cause Nuclear winter ....

Water world. Cool movie.

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another interesting tidbit about Atlantis cough cough Antarctica....

antarctic-logistics.com...

average elevation is 8,200 feet... hmmmmmmmm makes ya wonder doesn't it?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Violater1

Your quote from the article is oddly truncated. Here is the full statement:

However, Loose cautions, this does not imply that volcanism is the major source of mass loss from Pine Island. On the contrary, “there are several decades of research documenting the heat from ocean currents is destabilizing Pine Island Glacier, which in turn appears to be related to a change in the climatological winds around Antarctica,” Loose said. Instead, this evidence of volcanism is a new factor to consider when monitoring the stability of the ice sheet.

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The volcanic heat is exacerbating ice loss which is being primarily caused by warm ocean currents.

However he continues with," Does that mean that global climate change is not a factor in the stability of the Pine Island Glacier?

No, said Loose. “Climate change is causing the bulk of glacial melt that we observe, and this newly discovered source of heat is having an as-yet undetermined effect, because we do not know how this heat is distributed beneath the ice sheet.” This new information has not yet been figured into the equation. And, " that the heat source beneath Pine Island is about 25 times greater than the bulk of heat flux from an individual dormant volcano."

That is a big factor in this new equation, no?

originally posted by: one4all
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LOL....now they are setting the stage to Nuke the ruins in Antarctica and tell us all it is a volcanic eruption....lol....anything to keep the truths hidden.

I don't think that they are going to nuke anything. But this discovery of He3, and that there is active volcanism beneath the ice sheet, leads me to think that they may announce that there is more than penguins at the South Pole.

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if they haven't determined the heats impact from the volcano how they can confidently attribute anything to climate change when they clearly do not understand the variables?

originally posted by: toysforadults
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if they haven't determined the heats impact from the volcano how they can confidently attribute anything to climate change when they clearly do not understand the variables?

Yeah, my point exactly. This scientist is clearly trying to tow the line for "global warming" which is now called "climate Change." It's a good thing that the research says another.

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They are two different things and always have been. Global warming causes changes in climates. Both terms have been used in that sense for decades.

If you bother to read the actual study, you might learn something about how they know what the volcanic action is doing as opposed to other influences.

originally posted by: Phage
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They are two different things and always have been. Global warming causes changes in climates. Both terms have been used in that sense for decades.

If you bother to read the actual study, you might learn something about how they know what the volcanic action is doing as opposed to other influences.

And Mr Phage, I did read it. Why say such a disparaging comment.
Perhaps you did not read the scientist's statement that I included in my above post. It's in yellow, but I will re-quote here and place it in red.
“Climate change is causing the bulk of glacial melt that we observe, and this newly discovered source of heat is having an as-yet undetermined effect, because we do not know how this heat is distributed beneath the ice sheet.” So they don't know what the volcanic action is doing But because of your wide expertise, you should write to Woods Hole and educate them.
The scientist states," “Yet there are several decades of research documenting the heat from ocean currents is destabilizing Pine Island Glacier, which in turn appears to be related to a change in the climatological winds around Antarctica." Here is a map of the currents of Antarctica. The major ocean currents south of 20°S are shown by the arrows. The largest current in the world, the Antarctic circumpolar current, circles from west to east around Antarctica.
www.antarctica.gov.au...
Here is a study from www.bas.ac.uk...
Now comparing the British Antarctic Survey (BAS) map and with Steig and Mann's map, we see this.

Mr Watts of WUWT, is quit elegant in saying,"Steig and Mann, despite their failed attempt to use warming in one area of Antarctica to infer warming over the entire continent may have in fact captured an air temperature signature from that heat flux, which is completely unrelated to “climate change” or “global warming”.
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originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Violater1

if they haven't determined the heats impact from the volcano how they can confidently attribute anything to climate change when they clearly do not understand the variables?

Yeah, my point exactly. This scientist is clearly trying to tow the line for "global warming" which is now called "climate Change." It's a good thing that the research says another.

we found a heat source and have no idea how much of an impact it is having on the ice but...

global warming

yeah that's a real scientist right there...

And here are additional maps displaying 91 newly discovered volcanoes.


Here is a detailed map.


So with this information, am I to believe that climate change, methane gas or CO2 from man is causing some areas of Antarctica to warm?

a reply to: Violater1

actually if you really look at the evidence we are in a cooling period

originally posted by: toysforadults
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actually if you really look at the evidence we are in a cooling period

Yes, that is true.
But the liberals still want to have a Carbon Footprint tax.
I bet Al Gore is eating all of those Carbon Footprint tax credits that he purchased (actually made up), knowing that for the next 7 years, they will still be worthless (and always have been).