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originally posted by: wakeupstupid
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: wakeupstupid
3. So you bailed on your obligations like Trump did (often). Awesome. Remind me not to make any deals with you.
The US Government made those deals with me, and reneged on a contractual obligation to taking care of a wounded and permanently disabled soldier. Medical bills piled up, I said shove it. Sue me, oh wait?
I held up my end of the bargain, medically retired and honorably. With Tricare Prime, Medicare and the VA Hospital I still acquire bills monthly for those same injuries as they follow me through life. Thank you, sir. I can understand the inclination to attack now, clearly.
Maybe some other predator made those deals with Trump, who am I to know. I can see how bankruptcy is a great "red line" with bad deals. I haven't seen his taxes so I wouldn't know.
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: wakeupstupid
Ah, so you think they could simply squash any launch. That would be interesting, and completely plausible.
As the smartest thing on this planet, you'd think we would have found a better alternative to war.
originally posted by: DupontDeux
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: musicismagic
How much bribe money will we send to Kim Jong for his agreement? I'm sure Trump can trump Obama's 1 Pallet of $100 dollar bills, by sending 2 pallets!
Well, they print the damn things like crazy anyway, and back it by nothing, so would it not be an insanely cheap way to get rid of a would-be nuclear threat to America?
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: musicismagic
I hope this works out well for NK, the US and the rest of the region.
Both men walked to Trump's bullet-proof limousine, nicknamed"The Beast", and looked in at the rear seat, with Trump apparently showing Kim something inside.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: wakeupstupid
Every politician is always attacked. That's the way it works.
Trump didn't do anything here. Not a thing. What is there to follow through on? Read the thing. There is nothing of substance, except maybe the repatriation of bones.
originally posted by: roadgravel
From what is coming out in the news, basically same points as previous deals.
originally posted by: crtrvt
You guys don't remember the last three times North Korea said they'd denuke hey? Collective amnesia? This looks like the 2005 agreement only with less forceful language.
There are no detail, no dates, no time limits, no metrics, just vague assurances to do something someday.
In other words, we got nothing and Un got the optics of being treated as an equal by the POTUS. The flags side by side. Un has been legitimized on the world stage and has a decade's worth of fresh propaganda to dump on state TV.
Trump got a handshake and a photo op. Plus propaganda to dump on state TV.
And for those Red Caps who I know are triggered by this already, for god sake grow up. Nobody wants war with North Korea. But we know that North Korea will not get rid of their nukes. These kind of agreements have been done in past but North Korea always broke it. People are very pessimistic because they have done this for decades.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: crtrvt
You guys don't remember the last three times North Korea said they'd denuke hey? Collective amnesia? This looks like the 2005 agreement only with less forceful language.
There are no detail, no dates, no time limits, no metrics, just vague assurances to do something someday.
In other words, we got nothing and Un got the optics of being treated as an equal by the POTUS. The flags side by side. Un has been legitimized on the world stage and has a decade's worth of fresh propaganda to dump on state TV.
Trump got a handshake and a photo op. Plus propaganda to dump on state TV.
And for those Red Caps who I know are triggered by this already, for god sake grow up. Nobody wants war with North Korea. But we know that North Korea will not get rid of their nukes. These kind of agreements have been done in past but North Korea always broke it. People are very pessimistic because they have done this for decades.
He also got a press release from Trump and video on CNN than Kim is a great leader who loves his people. And he got Trump to call our military exercises in SK provocative war games and (a surprise to the US military and SK who weren't informed of this ahead of time... though it seems China was) a promise to stop joint military exercises in SK.