New NFL Policy. Re: The National Anthem.

a reply to: shooterbrody

seems the ball is squarely in the nfls court as they get to decide what that "conduct" is as I posted earlier

And history shows no such examples. So...

I doubt you are correct with your assertion. We'll see if anyone gets suspended for six games for protesting.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'd think again.

The dirty secret is that soccer has the same incident of head trauma. It's just hidden better because the players don't tackle each other.

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: TinySickTears

Forced? It is only forced if you do not have patriotism or respect of your country.

thats a reason. another is some people just dont jive with this hand over the heart patriotism bull#. does not mean you hate the country.
didnt know every person born here had to be a patriot.

and clearly many on here dont care about the actual respect part. they just want them standing. as in forced. as in that is what maters.

some

originally posted by: matafuchs


If there was more love of country and respect we would not have half the social issues now we do.

if there was more respect for other people we would not have half the issues.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: TinySickTears

Respect, as in deference. It's fine, I'm in no way surprised that you don't understand it.

oh respect as in submission?
i get it

and not surprised you want people forced to that.

www.dictionary.com...

respectful submission or yielding to the judgment, opinion, will, etc., of another.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: nwtrucker

I think you missed my point. I can do that, and he can fire me. I have free speech, but there are repercussions to such speech.

Oh, I see. Yes, of course. Then so can the football players...and suffer whatever consequences that result.

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: TinySickTears

Respect, as in deference. It's fine, I'm in no way surprised that you don't understand it.

oh respect as in submission?
i get it

and not surprised you want people forced to that.

www.dictionary.com...

respectful submission or yielding to the judgment, opinion, will, etc., of another.

It can be both....or either. That's a subjective call. Yes?

I'm confused now.

I thought when this all started that the players weren't actually protesting the country.

How it turns out they are? Because that seems to be the tone of this discussion ... how dare people be forced to show respect for the country.

originally posted by: ketsuko
... how dare people be forced to show respect for the country.

yup.
its bull#

gotta love that forced respect.
its the best kind

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: projectvxn

You mean like the thread about the “cry closet” at university, even though it didn’t directly affect the OP at all, and no one is forced to go into the closet? You mean like that?

"University" = emotionally stunted weak "adult" factories.

“Football fans = mentally stunted “hold my beer” types.

Maybe....

Ok, you got me there.

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: kaylaluv

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: projectvxn

You mean like the thread about the “cry closet” at university, even though it didn’t directly affect the OP at all, and no one is forced to go into the closet? You mean like that?

"University" = emotionally stunted weak "adult" factories.

“Football fans = mentally stunted “hold my beer” types.

Maybe....

Ok, you got me there.

the ones i know..
definitely

a reply to: intrepid

What I see is a bunch of spoiled clowns chose to make a scene at their workplace and cost their employers a pile of money and the employers were scared of said employees so they bent their rules to accomidate them. I am sorry but if you protest something at your workplace costing them money usually you find yourself looking for a new job period. There is a time and place for everything and tak8ng the knee during the anthem is not the time.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Yeah, I can't really argue with that.

Most of the football parties I've ended up in were filled with alcohol-fueled bros who weren't actually that intelligent.

a reply to: TinySickTears

No, I think you misunderstand me.

When these protests started and fans were angry because they felt the protests were a sign of disrespect to the country, the players all spoke out emphatically that they were, in fact, NOT disrespecting the country.

Now, it seems from this discussion that they were, in fact, disrespecting the country all along?

So not only are the disrespecting the country that lets them become multi-millionaires playing a sport, but they are also liars?

How nice.

originally posted by: ketsuko
I'm confused now.

I thought when this all started that the players weren't actually protesting the country.

How it turns out they are? Because that seems to be the tone of this discussion ... how dare people be forced to show respect for the country.

This is just my perspective on it, but it strikes me more as the straw that broke the camel's back, more than anything else. Small indignity, disagreement, enforced acceptance, one after the other. Work place, social justice warriors, what our kids are taught in school.

The traditional escape from all the crap perceived to be thrown our way was/is sports. Even that being manipulated into social judgement, biased support. To Wit, 'pink shoes' unending pink shoes for the ladies and breast cancer. No, nothing for the prostate suffers, just the ladies. More and more 'compassion' less and less' deal with it, your well paid men.

No. No more. Enough! I am NOT paying to watch overpaid, whiners bitch about how bad it is when every damn fan would consider themselves lucky to even be in their shoes. Now you take my escape away, to boot?

More than enough numbers to force our will on them, instead of forcing their right to protest on us. We won. No different than the election. Largely the same mechanism, methinks.

I 'think' that describes it. Could be wrong, though.

a reply to: ketsuko

ok
im not interested in why they are doing what they are doing though.

i am far more interested in all the people that want them to be forced to submit or show respect or show patriotism.
the players side is not interesting to me

originally posted by: nwtrucker


More than enough numbers to force our will on them, .

more force
unreal

and them being able to stay in the locker room is a win for you?

a reply to: DBCowboy

You should try watching baseball. Its a lot more interesting and the players are real athletes.

Interesting timing. A few months back it was announced that WWE owner, Vince McMahon, would be bringing back his previously failed football league, the XFL, in 2020. Among the selling points listed was that players would be required to stand for the anthem.

Fast forward to the beginning of this week and it was announced that Fox and the WWE would be entering in to a five year contract worth $1 billion for the broadcasting licence to WWE's B-show, Smackdown, starting next year.

That's quite a lot for a show averaging 2.5 million viewers. I wonder if there's more to this deal than meets the eye. I'm sure Fox isn't happy that the NFL has agreed to extend their contract with Amazon to stream Thursday Night Football.

originally posted by: Zarniwoop
a reply to: shooterbrody

seems the ball is squarely in the nfls court as they get to decide what that "conduct" is as I posted earlier

And history shows no such examples. So...

I doubt you are correct with your assertion. We'll see if anyone gets suspended for six games for protesting.

You know little of history
A player was suspended 6 games last season without even being charged with a crime.