Donald Trump Demands Investigation into Obama Admin

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Sure you can. When they decide to call exaggerations, lies, it all becomes a matter of perspective.

Deliberate misquotes, to fool the masses that probably didn't even read the article he was misquoting to being with, are called lies, every time, not exaggerations.

I sure hope he sits down with Mueller!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Sublimecraft


The "stuff" he said were deliberate misquotes and lies. Are you so used to Trump's lying that it all boils down to Trump "says stuff"?

Let me make it extremely clear to you so there is no further confusion as to my stance.

I give EXACTLY zero #s what the latest Trump outrage is - ZERO. I am looking at this whole 'Donald Trump is the POTUS' from an entirely different perspective to you.

1. I'm not emotionally invested in his comments and tweets.
2. I'm glad Hillary lost.
3. All alphabet agencies have been politically weaponized/corrupted/infiltrated & do not protect the interests of citizens.
4. The MSM are liars, this is their M.O - not to present objective facts/news, but to present lies and untruth as facts.
5. The MSM are the propaganda arm of the deep state - the MSM can not be trusted.
6. The whole US government apparatus that still exists from Obamas days is vying for Trumps death (political and/or actual).

Although you hate Trump because the TVs have convinced you that lies are truth and truth are lies, this is no excuse for not doing your own personal due diligence.

When the IG report comes out, and Obama, Hillary et al are finally fingered as corrupt P.O.S, I shall send you a P.M reminding you of this conversation we're having.

The DNC, democrats and all their supporters are all equally to blame for the current state of Americas international reputation as a trainwreck that cannot untangle.

Trump ain't the issue - you and your ilk are.

a reply to: Sillyolme

The same Bernie that got screwed by the DNC to prop up Hillary? Hillary being the one that you said "will be an excellent president" no less?
Now he's joining the Navy? Like I said, he's a Trump supporter. He just doesn't have the heart to tell you.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
So according to trump supporters this investigation is totally legit and warranted yet the mueller investigation is a “with hunt”

Yeah.....

Makes sense

Mike Tyson??

a reply to: Grambler

Yes the fbi had time to put a spy (or as you anti trump peop[le like to say, an :informant") in the trump team,

No, Halper wasn't "in the Trump team." That would infer that he was part of the operation, had access to communications, etc.

had time to investigate payments to stromy daniels,

Are you saying that the FBI counterintelligence investigation uncovered the hush money payment? I don't think that's true.

Yet when it comes to the russians that apparently it was so crucial to stop interference, they couldnt be bothered top actually LOOK AT THE HACKED SERVER.

I've read about 100 different articles about this and I have yet to discover what was given to the FBI. The FBI was not given direct access to the running servers. We can debate why this wasn't done but I think it's important to consider several things, not least of which was that the FBI had an open investigation into the Clinton campaign. You immediately jump to insinuating that either a) the FBI wasn't really concerned or b) it was all fabricated by CrowdStrike.

What we don't know is whether or not the FBI was given the disk images made by CrowdStrike.

A lot has been made about the founder of CrowdStrike but the President and CSO, Shawn Henry, formerly ran the FBI's cybercrime division as executive assistant director. The point man for CrowdStrike was Robert Johnston who had just gotten out of the Marines where he directed the Marine Corps Red Team and less than a year earlier had been a captain at the Marine's Cyber Protection Team 81, based in Fort Meade. In fact, he'd been part of the response to the Pentagon hack. He now runs this company.
So keep in mind that you're making insinuations about actual people.

Meanwhile, the FBI was already trying to alert the DNC that they had a problem months before they hack was discovered. The phishing campaigns left forensic fingerprints all over the place from the shortened links to DNS queries to emails in the WikiLeaks releases — multiple independent sources of evidence.

We have no idea what the FBI and the IC did from there. You can bet that they contacted ISPs and got logs from them, the NSA has this massive surveillance apparatus, there's human intel, etc.

Basically what you're saying is that the DNC making the decision not to turn over their servers in the middle of an election (and an investigation into their candidate) is proof that the Russians didn't hack the DNC (or that there was no hack at all) while ignoring all the of evidence that has nothing to do with CrowdStrike and concluding that the IC was what? Just making # up? Oh, that's right, they all hated Trump so they just made all this # up but not ONE whistleblower has leaked anything about this massive conspiracy.

Meanwhile, you and others want this to be taken seriously about russian hacking, while at the same tuime you push to Russians using 150 thousand dollars in facebook ads as proof of the nefarious russians trying to steal the election for trump.

You mean that Russian social media influence campaign that didn't happen? It was all a hoax. Didn't happen. Well, that was the original line of BS from Trump world. Then it became impossible to deny so that just shifted to arguing about how effective it was.

What are you going to do when Mueller's team gets a slew of indictments? What about when the report comes out that concludes after exhaustive investigation that the Russians did in fact hack the DNC, DCCC, and other targets?

Oh and that reminds me, Podesta was phished. His email was on Google's servers. It's even known down to the specific shortened link and the time he clicked it that it happened and that it was part of a much larger phishing campaign that by all appearances was run by the Russians. No DNC server needed.

Well the thread is up with all of the super effective russian facebook posts, yet nether you or anyone of the outher people that repeatedly told us how horrible this was was able to point to the posts that stole the election for trump.

I never said that they "stole the election for Trump" let alone with Facebook ads. I said that they were happening as one part of a larger campaign and specifically, what I found more concerning were the trolls. There are quotes directly in the indictments where the indicted state "Trump is our guy." I don't need to sift through the ads, I've read the breakdown. Also, you're narrowly focusing on the ads which accounted for less than 10% of one month of IRA's budget for the project.

But again, this didn't happen. According to Trump and his supporters.

Meanwhule the list you posted of shady things trumps team have done can be repeated almost verbatim, sometimes exactly with the same shady behavior from the Hillary camp; yet no investigation of them is happening.

Ah, the old "Trump is just like Clinton" argument that's sprung up among the people who were telling us all how Trump wasn't just like Clinton.

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: DanteGaland
a reply to: The GUT

And when racists get called out, they sidestep and pivot...

Tell that to my biracial children and all the equality committees and community outreach programs I've worked on over the years.

You hypocritical virtue signalers have lost your "shout" power. Talk about sidesteps and pivoting...what is this OP about again? You embarrass yourself.

I'm BLACK and married to a MEXICAN. My son is GAY and I volunteer at an AIDS clinic.

Prove yours and I'll prove mine.

Only racists and alt-right red-hats use "virtue signaling". Real progressive, NON RACIST people don't use trashy nomenclature such as "virtue signaling".

originally posted by: NorthernLites
I see the chess being played here. Look at his other tweets today. He's setting the board, taking back the news cycle. He's going to force MSM hand to respond to him and bring all this stuff he's talking about back into the news. Which they will do negatively to try and fake news debunk him, while calling him unhinged and talking about conspriacy's.


Enter IG report in the next day or two that proves he's right.

And boom!!!

You knocked it right out of the park here!!

And it is not only these high crimes that are being prepared for exposure... after they took out the Sadistic Racist protector of Hillary Crimes, NY AG Schniederman, they put in someone who will go after these sick individuals and within a week we have a Anthony Weiner indictment being unsealed!

2018 shall be glorious!

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Krakatoa

Who cares if you believe me?

Well, I guess your son is a secret Russian agent, being embedded in the U.S. Navy now.

Prove me wrong.

That is my point. You advocate that anyone accused must prove innocence. I put it to you, does that same standard apply to the offspring you are so proud of? If accused, they will need to prove their innocence.

See how that works.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Absolutely. Bring it. This is trump making noise.
There's nothing to discover.
If trump had half the understanding of this situation that he needs he would see this. But he's stupid. Truly just stupid and he simply cant understand it. And because he can't understand it he can't make his base understand it. So you all go merrily along not getting it. Oh happy happy day.
In the end you'll all get it.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: DBCowboy

Absolutely. Bring it. This is trump making noise.
There's nothing to discover.
If trump had half the understanding of this situation that he needs he would see this. But he's stupid. Truly just stupid and he simply cant understand it. And because he can't understand it he can't make his base understand it. So you all go merrily along not getting it. Oh happy happy day.
In the end you'll all get it.

You are like a case study of how well the social engineers program have worked if you believe every word you typed here.

There are legal documents that have already proven how deep this mess goes and what we are talking about is barely the tip of the iceberg.

a reply to: Grambler

That didn't happen. No one weaponized the justice dept.
Trump was meeting with foreigners and worked with them to destroy our elective process.
He doesn't deserves any loyalty.
Pay for play, obstruction of justice, dereliction of duty to protect the country and the constitution.
He's the leader of the government and he's battling with his own people.
Maybe he should have researched before he decided to run. Who am I kidding. Trump study ...when pigs fly.
It's complete insanity.

a reply to: DanteGaland

Every single investigation that has ever been launched against the Clintons has been controlled from start to finish by the deep state that is being exposed... it worked the same exact way with every investigation into Bush family.

It may be hard to comprehend but good people across the board in our Military and any thinking individual, has used whatever power they have to stand up against a sick network referred to as the deep state that controls all black markets (human/organ/drug/weapon/etc) and has been ruling in the shadows behind scum bag, implicated, Republicans/Democrats.

It is time to wake up!

a reply to: theantediluvian

Halper was working with people in trumps team, being told details of the fbis investigation and asking questions like “what about Russians hacking emails”

You can question and pontificate all you want.

The facts are real simple. The server was the most important piece of evidence of what some are saying (myself somewhat as well) is one of the most important investigations the no has ever done me.

The dnc did not want the fbi to see the server, and the fbi did not insist on seeing it.

That is unforgivable, no matter how much you spin it.

I never said this proves Russia didn’t hack it. But it proves the dnc was not interesting in doing whatever it took to investigate it, and shows the fbi is incompetent or corrupt

I never said Russians didn’t troll, I said it was inconsequential and laughable to act like it’s some big deal.

And that’s proven by the fact that you and everyone else are not able to pint to the damning troll posts that changed the election

Oh and us citizens, British, Israeli, Chinese, French and on and on had trolls probably that posted stuff.

Who cares!!! It is unbelievably laughable that you and others are still holding on to the narrative that Russians using Facebook and Pokémon posting about black lives matter and gay rights heloed trump win an election, yet want to act like the massive msm bias against trump was ok and outweighed by these Facebook posts

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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

That didn't happen. No one weaponized the justice dept.
Trump was meeting with foreigners and worked with them to destroy our elective process.
He doesn't deserves any loyalty.
Pay for play, obstruction of justice, dereliction of duty to protect the country and the constitution.
He's the leader of the government and he's battling with his own people.
Maybe he should have researched before he decided to run. Who am I kidding. Trump study ...when pigs fly.
It's complete insanity.

Not saying you're insane, but if an insane person were to post on ATS it would look. . . well. . .

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

That didn't happen. No one weaponized the justice dept.
Trump was meeting with foreigners and worked with them to destroy our elective process.
He doesn't deserves any loyalty.
Pay for play, obstruction of justice, dereliction of duty to protect the country and the constitution.
He's the leader of the government and he's battling with his own people.
Maybe he should have researched before he decided to run. Who am I kidding. Trump study ...when pigs fly.
It's complete insanity.

Yet, in reality.........

"Hillary was meeting with foreigners and worked with them to destroy our elective process.
She doesn't deserves any loyalty.
Pay for play, obstruction of justice, dereliction of duty to protect the country and the constitution.
She was the leader of the democrats and she's been battling with her own people since Nov 9th 2016.
Maybe she should have researched before she decided to run. Who am I kidding. Clinton study ...when pigs fly.
It's complete insanity.

I hope you know that your political and personal insecurities and projections are highly evident and every post you make further reinforces this fact.

originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Grambler



Ah, the old "Trump is just like Clinton" argument that's sprung up among the people who were telling us all how Trump wasn't just like Clinton.

I know you apparently are not concerned with the intel agencies (you know the ones whose leaders are all on the msm saying how much they hate trump and Schumer said would come after trump) but some of us are concerned about that

So it’s not just Hillary and trump both did things

It’s that over and over, as I have shown you repeatedly, the intel agencies went after trump for the very same things they let Hillary’s team get away with.

Given what the op is about, which is trump asking the investigate these groups for acting in a political manner, I think that it is very relevant

Then you posted a list of things trumps team did wrong in an attempt to justify the fbi using inte letters to get phone records, wiretaps on trump associates, sending informants to trump camp members, etc.

I am pointing out the fact that a similar if not worst list could be compiled about the Hillary camp, yet the fbi took none of those actions speaks to the fact that it wasn’t just about the fbi trying to stop foreign influence. If it was , they would have done the same things to Hillary’s campaign

Again, I know you are really worried about Russians trolls and think we need to look at them

I think that a weaponiezd intel community spying on presidential campaigns they don’t like is a far more serious and dangerous thing than anything trump was accused of

a reply to: Sublimecraft


Yeah, okay! Good luck with that. I'm the problem. I'm your enemy. Got it!

See ya, Felicia. I don't care about what you don't care about.

Fact: Trump lied 11 times today alone.

Deal with it, or not. I don't care.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

That didn't happen. No one weaponized the justice dept.
Trump was meeting with foreigners and worked with them to destroy our elective process.
He doesn't deserves any loyalty.
Pay for play, obstruction of justice, dereliction of duty to protect the country and the constitution.
He's the leader of the government and he's battling with his own people.
Maybe he should have researched before he decided to run. Who am I kidding. Trump study ...when pigs fly.
It's complete insanity.

I have posted thread after thread showing incompetence or corruption by the intel community

Your response to that is usually a sophisticated claim like “trump is orange and has fat fingers!” Or “nuh uh!!”

So excuse me if I laugh at your assertion that that the intel community did no wrong.

But again, if you are so confident, you should welcome a special counsel made up with f half trump supporters that look into obama and all of his connections going decades back for any crime.

That’s you standard, right?

If you are sure they are all innocent, then it should be no problem

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Hell yeah.

a reply to: Deetermined

Yeah sure. Bone spurs. No he wasn't rejected. He got an out from his well paid doctor. You people can never get your facts straight. Lol.
He did not sign up and get rejected. He dodged the draft.