School shooter used SHOTGUN AND REVOLVER

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

In other words, meh, who cares. What’s for dinner? Let’s party tonight!

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

It's a simple solution with some logestical planning. Every courthouse in the country already employs it.

It's also most likely the long term mental health and self searching harder answers to find.

Saying it's like lightning isn't even in the realm of reasonable however. These are terrorist acts. They scare people further past those effected and quite frankly are optically frightening.

honestly i think school shootings need a better statistic definition which more accurately tells people the reality, right now anything related to the word "shooting" is counted as a school shooting, even if the shots were fired a block away, even if no actual shooting took place, just having a gun being reported near the school is counted as a "school shooting incident" just like the phrase "active shooter" is misleading.

I think if a kid shoots up a school every three months it doesn't matter. It just adds to the anxiety kids feels at school.

originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: kaylaluv

This is why we should require by law guns be locked up at all times, and we should have random checks to make sure they are - I believe there are other countries that do this. 

Other countries may allow for random checks in your home.
In this country, that would be just a tad unconstitutional.

There are ways around it.

A teen gets put on probation 2 to 3 years.....court ordered stipulation no guns in home, random checks can be ordered at any time. It is common and in practice but when you got SJW's running the local system, the little teen monsters never make it in front of a Judge.

But that would not be random.

originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

Interesting argument.... you need a certificate (licence) to own a gun, though right?


So when I say interesting, I really mean absurd.

I’m sorry, but again, if you want the tool but don’t want to look after it properly, you shouldn’t have the tool.

It’s number when owning a gun. Anything less, and you don’t deserve it.

Well, its a constitutional right, so i dont think "deserve" figures into it.
As for a certificate or license to own a gun.... not usually. Few and i mean very few, states require a test for a license to buy a gun. Mine recently started for long guns (rifles&shotguns)and has for a while with handguns. Before that, it was a background check. So in the US, simply owning a gun in the wide majority of states, only required that you not be prohibited from owning one.
Do you see the slight flaw in the logic here of what you are saying. Youre basically saying "if you want to exercise your rights then you should do it in the manner I prescribe, and if not, you dont deserve them". That doesnt really sound like a right. Thats more of youre opinion on how everyone else should conduct themselves.

a reply to: luthier

*sighs* schools aren't being shot up every 3 months, when will people stop listening to the media and their blatant lies about "school shootings".

a reply to: namehere

I don't listen or watch the media. I have a ccl, do three gun races, and hunt...

I think you have some other stereo type in mind.

However we have far too many kids walking into schools shooting other kids...

How many have happened this year?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

You’re right - what am I thinking. Just leave ‘em on the kitchen table, or better yet, put ‘em in our kid’s rooms right on the bed. Bullets loaded and safety off. Might as well...

Yeah, you can go ahead and leave the emotion at the door, thanks.

So tired of hearing the "keep all your guns locked" argument.... because it's super convenient to have to get to the safe, unlock it to get a self defense tool , all while seconds count when you need protection.

It's called education, teaching, you know, parenting. Such a simple concept, yet well.....

a reply to: luthier

They happen about once every 200 years. Oh wait...

www.edweek.org...

a reply to: kyleplatinum

Uh huh, Adam Lanza’s mom taught him all about guns, worked really well.

originally posted by: kyleplatinum

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: RalagaNarHallas

You’re right - what am I thinking. Just leave ‘em on the kitchen table, or better yet, put ‘em in our kid’s rooms right on the bed. Bullets loaded and safety off. Might as well...

Yeah, you can go ahead and leave the emotion at the door, thanks.

So tired of hearing the "keep all your guns locked" argument.... because it's super convenient to have to get to the safe, unlock it to get a self defense tool , all while seconds count when you need protection.

It's called education, teaching, you know, parenting. Such a simple concept, yet well.....

You can only shoot one at a time.

Your carry shouldn't really leave your sight as a standard safety practice.

originally posted by: namehere
a reply to: luthier

*sighs* schools aren't being shot up every 3 months, when will people stop listening to the media and their blatant lies about "school shootings".

Posted on newsmax Today....


Katamanthano • 2 hours ago
I hate to sound conspiratorial, but the pattern seems inescapable: these incidents appear to be not random but occurring state by state: Kentucky, then Colorado, then Virginia, then Ohio, next Connecticut, then California, then Washington, then New Mexico, . . . recently Florida, and now Texas. And in each case, the incident is followed by an organized push for that state to increase gun restrictions. Almost like someone saying, "OK, we got Florida to raise the legal age to 21, so now let's move on to Texas and see what we can get that state to give up." If the incidents were copy cat incidents, one would expect one incident to be followed by others in the same state. Even if they were random, one would expect multiple incidents within the same state rather than the appearance of states "taking turns" as it were.

If this sounds screwy, consider Sarsfield's point above that psychotropic drugs are a common factor in these incidents together with how easily people on psyhotropic drugs can be manipulated. Remember the dazed look of the 2012 "Batman shooter" while in court in Denver, almost as if he had been brainwashed - and consider the sophisticated weaponry involved in the booby-trapping of his apartment.

I have no proof of any of what I am suggesting - but consider the possibility that some entity is instigating and coordinating these incidents.

www.newsmax.com...



This Poster has a Valid Point , there is a Disturbing Pattern to these Incidents . I am sure further Info will eventually come out about this kid Heinous. Act .

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

It's a simple solution with some logestical planning. Every courthouse in the country already employs it.

It's also most likely the long term mental health and self searching harder answers to find.

Saying it's like lightning isn't even in the realm of reasonable however. These are terrorist acts. They scare people further past those effected and quite frankly are optically frightening.

Nobody is or is going to be looking for real answers though. All of this is being pushed in the media because:
1. Fear sells.
2. It drives up Democrat registration and money by gun control people, and it drives up Republican registration and money by people who want to preserve gun rights.
3. It allows the government to push the narrative that there is a dangerous threat so that the people will look to the government to do something? that will restore their SENSE of security regardless of whether it helps or hurt

As for the tertiary effect of the shooting....well thats really subjective and not quantifiable. For people who are in dangerous lines of work there is a point where you realize "i might actually die doing this. Well #" and you just push past it. You nut up and you accept that if its your time, then its your time and you dont let the fear rule you.Any number of things could kill you at any time. And thats the REAL answer to that. Unfortunately you cant tell 350 million people to suck it the # up and deal, because they will just boo you and vote you out for someone the will restore the illusion and make them feel better.
And the lightning stat is to illustrate that school shootings are as common as death by the cliche of anomalous events: BEING STRUCK BY LIGHTNING. If you are worried about dying in a school shooting, you should also be worried about being killed by lightning. Statistically. Not to say they have the same effects

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

Nobody is or is going to be looking for real answers though. All of this is being pushed in the media because:

People are sick and tired of their peers, friends, and children being murdered while simply attending school, pretty much sums it up.

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

A good explanation. To support that look at the school shooting in Illinois in the last week or so. The media decided it was not worth covering because the SRO stopped the threat before he could kill anyone.

School shootings are tragic. However apparently the mentality on the left is only ones where kids are killed are worthy of exploiting for their gun control argument.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
Well, he shouldn’t have been able to get hold of his father’s guns. Were they locked up like they should have been?

This is why we should require by law guns be locked up at all times, and we should have random checks to make sure they are - I believe there are other countries that do this.

If they had been properly locked up, this kid wouldn’t have been able to shoot anyone.

If Adam Lanza’s mother had properly locked hers up, he wouldn’t have been able to shoot anyone.

I agree guns should be locked up. Mine are (except for one), and I don't even have children.

I do not agree that, if a law was passed saying that they should be locked up/secured, there should random checks to ensure they are. # that.

a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

I support the 2nd I shoot at least twice a week. But I disagree with nearly all of your post. Except finding solutions is the goal...

It's obviously not on either side. Both sides benefit by widening the gap.

It is certainly quantifiable to know how students feel. It gets studied all the time.

Kids shooting other kids and lightening or dangerous jobs isn't the same thing. That is a completely dishonest comparison.

originally posted by: soundguy
American gun fetishists at work. It’s a shame so may children have to do so a few morons can have their precious. Too bad there isn’t a god. I would love to sit and watch these scum bags defend their opinions and actions before him. a reply to: Whoisjohngalt

“The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.”
― Adolf Hitler

a reply to: Xcathdra

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BREAKING Texas governor Greg Abbott: A CO2 device, a Molotov cocktail and various other types of explosive devices have been found in a home and in a vehicle. The suspect's vehicle is missing. The suspect wrote journals and had indicated he was suicidal.


Where did a 17 Year Old Kid Learn to make these Devices ? Was he Coached ?