Pyramids and the speed of light

This blew my mind!

www.express.co.uk/news/science/960740/ancient-egypt-great-pyramid-giza-speed-of-light/amp

I have long believed in past human civilizations that surpassed us in knowledge and technology. I also believe that, like us, they end up destroying almost everything they created in the end, leaving few humans to pick up the pieces and rebuild.

I also believe that there are those who built things such as the pyramids to retain that knowledge and try to pass it on to the survivors to try and rebuild.

And sorry, ancient aliens don't fit in to this view.

a reply to: theatreboy

Here's a link that works:

REVEALED: Great Pyramid of Giza has THIS in common with speed of light

Interesting, but it seems like coincidence to me. But still, it's intriguing to think they knew.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Thanks for fixing my link!

originally posted by: theatreboy
This blew my mind!

www.express.co.uk/news/science/960740/ancient-egypt-great-pyramid-giza-speed-of-light/amp

I have long believed in past human civilizations that surpassed us in knowledge and technology. I also believe that, like us, they end up destroying almost everything they created in the end, leaving few humans to pick up the pieces and rebuild.

I also believe that there are those who built things such as the pyramids to retain that knowledge and try to pass it on to the survivors to try and rebuild.

And sorry, ancient aliens don't fit in to this view.

So... The ancient Egyptians or whoever these yahoos think built this pyramid somehow used meters?

Not only that, but they never recorded anything ever about a unit of measure equal to a meter?

See this for all units of measure

None of them are close to a meter.

So, unless they're claiming some unknown unit of measure was used during the time that the WELL documented construction of the great pyramid happened and that they somehow used that unit (the meter) to link it's latudinal location to the speed of light expressed in m/s (and notice they only use latitude which would mean, if accurate even, ANYWHERE on earth along that line...), the whole theory that the numbers match (they don't) is wrong.

Screw it. These guys say it better than I can (or care to):

Debunk

a reply to: 35Foxtrot

How the hell do you know that Ancient Aliens didn't use the metric system?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: 35Foxtrot

How the hell do you know that Ancient Aliens didn't use the metric system?

No self-respecting REAL ancient alien would use anything other than Imperial measures.

Everyone knows that!

a reply to: theatreboy


The search feature is usually a good starting point prior to authoring a thread. You missed the drop by almost 2 weeks when this-

Pyramid of Giza and the Speed of Light

Was posted.

a reply to: theatreboy

A similar thread was made a few weeks ago... So this one might get closed unfortunately.

Pyramids Giza and the speed of light

As others have noted though, the Egyptians didn't use any of our methods of measuring..

So if anything, some clever clogs set up our own coordinates system to reflect this, historically that shouldn't work. I think the speed of light was calculated after.

So I'm guessing it's just coincidence... Or time travelling Egyptians?

There's a thread on this already

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: 35Foxtrot
So, unless they're claiming some unknown unit of measure was used during the time that the WELL documented construction of the great pyramid happened

Wait..what? Well documented construction of the great pyramid? I'm sure historians of many disciplines would be interested in reading those documents as that would answer the currently unanswered questions of "How/when were the pyramids built?" How do those documents account for the documents that state Khufu found the tip of the pyramid sticking out of the sand?

a reply to: wtfatta

I'm fairly certain there's documents and archeological evidence of the quarries and the towns that sprung up to accommodate those that worked on the great Pyramid.

We've got a few members who know a lot more than me, there's a few good comments on the thread I linked.

Despite the Egyptians not using the meter, I think it's far too coincidental for it to not have importance. I mean if it was off by a few numbers, then ya, obvious coincidence, but we are talking about the exact same number sequence... EXACT.

Perhaps it was not the Egyptians who selected the location. Perhaps the "Gods" chose it, knowing it's significance.

Regardless of the reason, the fact of the matter is that the pyramids were built with incredible precision using information we have no idea how they would've attained. For that reason, something this exact I don't think can be chalked up to coincidence.

originally posted by: wtfatta

originally posted by: 35Foxtrot
So, unless they're claiming some unknown unit of measure was used during the time that the WELL documented construction of the great pyramid happened

Wait..what? Well documented construction of the great pyramid? I'm sure historians of many disciplines would be interested in reading those documents as that would answer the currently unanswered questions of "How/when were the pyramids built?"

When isn’t actually a question. And there’s plenty of evidence supporting Khufu’s commission of it including recently discovered documentation from the engineers who built it. The village for the workers who build it has been found (paid laborers not slaves), the quarries that the Stone was taken from are well known and the canals dug to transport the Stone were recently found as well.

How do those documents account for the documents that state Khufu found the tip of the pyramid sticking out of the sand?

I think you’re confusing Khufu and the GP with Napoleon and the Sphinx. The GP is over 480 feet tall. It was never covered in sand.

Seeing that this is now a thread about measurements...

Men reading ATS™ currently.....

(----------------------------------------------------) This is still NOT 9"...

originally posted by: scojak
Despite the Egyptians not using the meter, I think it's far too coincidental for it to not have importance. I mean if it was off by a few numbers, then ya, obvious coincidence, but we are talking about the exact same number sequence... EXACT.

No, not exact. The coordinates range from 29.978135 to 29.980166 for the Cheop's Pyramide alone.

Perhaps it was not the Egyptians who selected the location. Perhaps the "Gods" chose it, knowing it's significance.

So the "Gods" knew that 4 and a half millennia later we would be using a system of measurement that was entirely alien to Bronze age Egyptians? Impressive foresight they had.

Regardless of the reason, the fact of the matter is that the pyramids were built with incredible precision using information we have no idea how they would've attained.

None of that is remotely true.

For that reason, something this exact I don't think can be chalked up to coincidence.

It can when the measurements and construction aren't anywhere near as exact as you claim.

originally posted by: JimNasium
Seeing that this is now a thread about measurements...

Men reading ATS™ currently.....

(----------------------------------------------------) This is still NOT 9"...

Don't you dare tell my wife about that!

originally posted by: scojak
Despite the Egyptians not using the meter, I think it's far too coincidental for it to not have importance. I mean if it was off by a few numbers, then ya, obvious coincidence, but we are talking about the exact same number sequence... EXACT.

Perhaps it was not the Egyptians who selected the location. Perhaps the "Gods" chose it, knowing it's significance.

Regardless of the reason, the fact of the matter is that the pyramids were built with incredible precision using information we have no idea how they would've attained. For that reason, something this exact I don't think can be chalked up to coincidence.

I don't think that you're aware that the pyramid bases aren't quite square and the pyramid slopes are not regular (for several pyramids. The GP is off by a couple of inches.) None of the blocks that make up the structures are the exact same size (though they're close) and the height isn't consistent, either.

So, nope. Not an exact same number sequence.

There has been another thread on this. A meter is approximately equal to one forty millionth the circumference of the Earth, depending on where you measure. (If you choose the equator, the Earth is a little bit bigger than that. And if you choose to measure top to bottom through the poles, it is a little bit smaller.)

Four seconds is the amount of time required for Earth to rotate one arc second on its axis.

So meters may be a modern invention, but the 360 degree system is very ancient, with the earliest recorded use being recovered cuneiform tablets from Sumeria (which show it being used in a way that makes it look to be fully established by the time of the writing.)


So, in addition to being the modern "speed of light constant", 29.9792458 is also the number of times a beam of light could go around the world in 4 seconds. At least approximately.

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: wtfatta

originally posted by: 35Foxtrot
So, unless they're claiming some unknown unit of measure was used during the time that the WELL documented construction of the great pyramid happened

Wait..what? Well documented construction of the great pyramid? I'm sure historians of many disciplines would be interested in reading those documents as that would answer the currently unanswered questions of "How/when were the pyramids built?"

When isn’t actually a question. And there’s plenty of evidence supporting Khufu’s commission of it including recently discovered documentation from the engineers who built it. The village for the workers who build it has been found (paid laborers not slaves), the quarries that the Stone was taken from are well known and the canals dug to transport the Stone were recently found as well.

They've found only evidence that strongly connects to the casing stones. And it does connect VERY strongly. There is even a recovered diary (the diary of Merer) written by a guy who was responsible for moving those stones from their quarry to their final destination.


How the 80 ton granite blocks got moved and placed is still a mystery.


When you look at other pyramids, such as the pyramid of Meidum, you see a picture of a structure that was built and completed as a step pyramid, only to later be altered into a true pyramid by attempting to add blocks to the outside walls to change its shape.

Official story (unsupported by any reliable evidence) is that the builders simply changed their minds half way through, and decided they wanted a true pyramid. However the engineers had built the steps with a slightly downward slope that made it incompatible with the change, and so the badly built outer layer eventually collapsed. (I find it very telling that the inner structure survived the collapse of the outer structure...... which would seem to imply it was very well built.)


It seems more plausible that whole different generations built different stages of these structures, with the most remembered builders being, of course, the ones who made the last part.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

How the 80 ton granite blocks got moved and placed is still a mystery.

People moved rocks of that sizes many times and some much larger you just need good rope technology, a ramp and a bunch of motivated people and people experienced in doing so.

I would also note that the circle that goes around the earth and passes off centered through the Great pyramid also goes thru hundreds of other man made structures - that in the northern hemisphere, in the southern hemisphere another circle does the same. No one gets to excited by those coincidences just the fact that it goes thru in it twice done passage around the earth thru that particular part of Egypt and one old tomb.

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous

How the 80 ton granite blocks got moved and placed is still a mystery.

People moved rocks of that sizes many times and some much larger you just need good rope technology, a ramp and a bunch of motivated people and people experienced in doing so.

The real question isn't whether they could do it. It's whether they could do it in 40 years.

Across multiple generations, sure. Just about any advanced early culture could do it.

And then why does it stop? Once you've got a crew of workers all trained to do something highly technical, they're going to want to keep doing it. They're going to seek employment doing it wherever they can. They're going to want to train their children to do it.

Forget what the elites want. The working class doesn't usually forsake its skill set. Neighboring cultures would be able to hire these people if their own leaders didn't.

I would also note that the circle that goes around the earth and passes off centered through the Great pyramid also goes thru hundreds of other man made structures - that in the northern hemisphere, in the southern hemisphere another circle does the same. No one gets to excited by those coincidences just the fact that it goes thru in it twice done passage around the earth thru that particular part of Egypt and one old tomb.

That is definitely true.

Also, the GP is so large that its base actually spans 8 arc seconds. So there's a pretty big margin of error, not "exactly" 29.9792458 unless you prefer a certain part of the base as your point to measure from.