The issue with atheism

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

Oh, what evil minds did plot to deceive all these people?

Yes, exactly. Christians plot to decieve people with their illogical claims. Thankfully you understand this and can accept that christians are evil people who cannot account for their beliefs and still manipulate kids into believing these harmful ideas that hinder them from understanding and accepting reality.

a reply to: Woodcarver

No, unfortunately we do not agree.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

No, unfortunately we do not agree.

Are you saying that you can demonstrate the validity of christian claims?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Just to make sure I understand what you're saying.

So, suddenly man appeared on earth, and there was a Christian among them. This Christian deceived all atheists, and all converted atheists are now deceiving more atheists. Nowadays, on earth, there a children born so in tune with reality that they know their religious parents are deceiving them. And now they must kill all these deceivers and cleanse the planet since they are so brainwashed there is no more hope for them?

a reply to: Woodcarver

No, I said we didn't agree.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

No, I said we didn't agree.

Can you demonstrate the validity of christian claims?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Why? Are you interested in becoming one? If you have to believe them they all found God by themselves.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

Just to make sure I understand what you're saying.

So, suddenly man appeared on earth, and there was a Christian among them. This Christian deceived all atheists, and all converted atheists are now deceiving more atheists. Nowadays, on earth, there a children born so in tune with reality that they know their religious parents are deceiving them. And now they must kill all these deceivers and cleanse the planet since they are so brainwashed there is no more hope for them?

I didn’t say any of that.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

Why? Are you interested in becoming one? If you have to believe them they all found God by themselves.

If you can demonstrate that christian claims are valid, i would have no choice but to accept it, and i would certainly become a born again christian.


Can you demonstrate these claims are valid?

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

Why? Are you interested in becoming one? If you have to believe them they all found God by themselves.

Because you said you don't agree with their opinion of Christian illogical claims and asked if you can demonstrate any validity in them.

Can you?

a reply to: Woodcarver

it wouldn't matter anyhow.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

it wouldn't matter anyhow.

You are being given the chance to demonstrate the validity of your beliefs. It shouldn’t be that hard. Something convinced you. It must have been very compelling. Certainly something more than just a feeling right? You wouldn’t just shape your entire world view based on some feelings right? Not when we know that human emotions are so unreliable?

a reply to: Woodcarver

My beliefs are validated, I don't need your approval.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

it wouldn't matter anyhow.

or, you could just be honest and say that you cannot demonstrate the validity of christian claims.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

My beliefs are validated, I don't need your approval.

How are your beliefs validated? You could share this and change the world.

Seems a bit selfish to keep this proof to yourself. Definately goes against the teachings of jesus. You’re not a very good christian. Def not setting a good example. Can’t trust someone who makes a claim like that and can’t demonstrate it.

a reply to: Woodcarver

when you haven't found any evidence of God for yourself by now, nobody will be able to present any to you.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

when you haven't found any evidence of God for yourself by now, nobody will be able to present any to you.

But, you do have some right?

a reply to: Woodcarver

Who's Jesus, that man of the stories Christians are deceived by?

a reply to: Woodcarver

ah, you don't know and never will

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Woodcarver

ah, you don't know and never will

You are demonstrating why christians cannot be trusted. You are too reluctant to enter a discussion about the validity of your claims, and you are avoiding any explanations that would put your position in a bad light. Both of these points demonstrate that you have a weak grasp of the position that you are arguing for, and that you accept these points with no logical way of demonstrating why you accept them.