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“...extreme Calvinism, the teaching that some people, by the foreordained plan of God, are predestined to be saved and some are predestined to be lost, and that their destinies were settled before they were born, is a wicked heresy contrary to the Bible, that dishonors God and has done incalculable harm. The heresy of extreme Calvinism is particularly appealing.“ Predestined to Hell
“Once the revolution had been decided upon, the Jewish plotters introduced Calvinism into England to split Church and State, and divide the people. Contrary to general belief, Calvinism is of Jewish origin. It was deliberately conceived to split the adherents of the Christian religions and divide the people. Calvin's real name was Cohen!“ The Luciferian Conspiracy Of Calvinism
originally posted by: Murgatroid
Calvin's heretical teachings are completely contrary to the Bible...
“...extreme Calvinism, the teaching that some people, by the foreordained plan of God, are predestined to be saved and some are predestined to be lost, and that their destinies were settled before they were born, is a wicked heresy contrary to the Bible, that dishonors God and has done incalculable harm. The heresy of extreme Calvinism is particularly appealing.“ Predestined to Hell
“Once the revolution had been decided upon, the Jewish plotters introduced Calvinism into England to split Church and State, and divide the people. Contrary to general belief, Calvinism is of Jewish origin. It was deliberately conceived to split the adherents of the Christian religions and divide the people. Calvin's real name was Cohen!“ The Luciferian Conspiracy Of Calvinism
originally posted by: Lazarus Short
I can say with confidence that "Hell" is from paganism, both the word and the concept.
originally posted by: freedom7
If you’ve read up on TULIP the model Calvinism adheres to , do you believe it is an accurate portrayal of who God is?
originally posted by: freedom7
Or do you believe it’s a system penned by men that has been either grossly misinterpreted ?
originally posted by: freedom7
I can personally say , the God of Arminianism vs the God of Calvinism are two vastly different Gods in character .
originally posted by: freedom7
I no longer go to church anymore and my faith has been rocked in many ways , because my old church ( though nowhere near as bad as others ) taught and still teaches Calvinism as biblically accurate for the most part.
originally posted by: freedom7
For me to try to pretend like I was ok with believing God predestined the majority of the world before they were even born for hell before they were even born and nothing they said or did could change that, and only gave some of the lucky elect ones a lottery ticket out of here to heaven for absolutely no reason at all , it got to a point where it was impossible to deny the obvious problem within ..
originally posted by: freedom7
It put me in this horrible conflict of having to question everything I had ever known about Jesus and his love for the entire world as displayed on the cross ..
originally posted by: freedom7 It made the concept of a final justice seem pointless , because ultimately this theology isn’t about personal accountability of your own volition to love God and love others and seek with all your heart to follow Christ ..
If everything is pre determined , than that would in effect mean that even the sins we all commit would be too .
I never understood how Calvinism could reconcile the obvious problem with this equation here - that being , how can one be held responsible and blamed if they had no say in the matter ?
originally posted by: freedom7
I’ve read stories firsthand of how this has destroyed the faiths of many . Is there any way to make sense of it all and have peace in it all if it’s true ?
originally posted by: freedom7
And if it’s one of the most clever lies ever told , how do you see through those lies and carry on seeking the truth of what the bible is really saying ?
originally posted by: Lazarus Short
My take on this is that Hell is an heretical concept, supported by pagan intrusion and bad translation. Some years ago, I decided to do some research to see which was correct:
Damnationism - including Calvinism in all its forms - eternal conscious torment
Annihilationism - the wicked reduced to ashes, forever
Universalism - all are saved in the end.
This was my trilemma, and I resolved it in favor of universalism in over two years of research into the King James Bible. My notes became a 200+ page book.
I can say with confidence that "Hell" is from paganism, both the word and the concept.
Text The argument between Freewill and Predestination is best left to the fallen angels in Hell;