Trump announces pulling out of Iran deal and imposing sanctions

a reply to: nwtrucker
even if you say LBJ did it. who do you think he served like pretty much all POTUS? Not the American people that for sure. Plus it is pretty much well established that it was an Israel attack.

a reply to: nwtrucker
even if you say LBJ did it. who do you think he served like pretty much all POTUS? Not the American people that for sure. Plus it is pretty much well established that it was an Israel attack.

a reply to: enkilo

Call it a personal quirk, but yes, when someone repeatedly calls for my death I take it seriously.

I honestly wouldn't care if the US soured on Egypt or Saudi Arabia. Both countries are one uppity leader away from total chaos anyway. Israel I have no beef with. They've been a good friend to the US and are the only consistently trustworthy country in that cat litter box of a region.

Also, there's no reason for a single US troop to touch the sand even if we did go to full on war with Iran. This is why we have the largest military budget in the world... never ending stream of bombs, missiles, and conventional weapons with zero need for ground troops. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

a reply to: Plotus

i agree without watching the video. the persian people are a beautiful people with a beautiful culture that has been highjacked politically by religion. they have a forward thinking youthful population and with some encouragement and olive branches i honestly believe they can help lead the path towards stability in the region.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Plotus

i agree without watching the video. the persian people are a beautiful people

Wow you checked the women out? They are seriously hot. One works at a local bank and she is just so beautiful

originally posted by: enkilo
Plus it is pretty much well established that it was an Israel attack.

Only by those who believe the water is turning the frogs gay...

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: Gothmog

yes and they speculate on the price based on many factors. being on the brink of ww3 might be one of them.

DefCon at 2 yet ?
Defcon moved off 5 ?
Nope , just checked
Still at 5 (meaning stand-down of US military forces around the world)
What war?
With Iran ?
That would be a big mistake on the mullahs' part. And I think they may have just enough wisdom to know it.
Do you not think the leaders of Iran can think logically and reasonably ? (well , sometimes I also doubt)

A little weird.

US, UK, France, China and Russia - plus Germany. all signed off on the deal and all of them wanted to keep it maybe tweek it a little but keep it. Why is that? None of them want a nuclear Iran...that's too problamatic. Something else is going on.

To those who say good because it makes Israel safer. Don't forget two things. We literally have Iran surrounded by US bases. I mean we actually have Iran surrounded by us military bases. They can't do anything. And 2 Isreal already has nuclear weapons.

a reply to: burdman30ott
so you have no beef with Israel bombing the USS liberty and killing your citizen. USA will not sour on Egypt or Saudi Arabia as they are part of the Zionist cabal that controls The POTUS. You seem to forget that in both Afghanistan and Iraq you had the largest military budget and never-ending streams of weapons but you end up on the ground anyway.

Only by those who believe the water is turning the frogs gay...
there are people who believe that water is turning frogs gay? lol. Only in america

You do realize that Israel admits they were responsible for the attack right?

originally posted by: xuenchen
Obama legacy crumbling.

😎

You mean crumbled. He's rightly consigned to the dustbin of history.

a reply to: seeker1963

Well, goddamn are you ignorant and wrong... I find it amusing, actually, that someone can come up with a word salad full of lies and ignorance, let's have some fun...


"Every government is criminal! The fact you use the terms "imperialistic", "colonialistic" shows me exactly why you defend cultural Marxism!"

When? When I have I ever defended Marxism or cultural Marxism, if you look throughout my history here I have been outspoken against Marxists, against socialists and against communists, I am an anarchist, we are enemies to all that.

calling Israel Imperialistic and colonialistic does not equal "Cultural Marxism" sorry, maybe learn what the word means before you toss it around as a pejorative

"It's odd that Antifa used to protest about an all empowering, big government, even though it was in the name of Marxism"

Wrong again, First why do you bring up Antifa when no one even mentioned their name? second, "Antifa" never protested against "Marxism" they were created as an umbrella name to fight the rise of Nazism and FAscism, seeing as you always talk about them, you should know that

but now all of a sudden they promote big government and fascist ideologies?

Wrong again, exactly when has "Antifa" promoted "Big Government"? and again, you clearly know the "Ideology" of fascism, and also what Antifa stands for correct?

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[5][6][7][4][8][9]

so, you are calling "Antifa" Marxist defenders and Fascist ideologues and yet

Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism,

Nice try man, Stay spooked

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Agree on the Shaw. I see it as ancient history, however. Let's see the total dead from Hamas activity in Judea-some mistakenly call it Palestine- the dead US soldiers due to IEDs from Iran to Iraq. The Iranian fighters also in Syria right at Israel's border. Not the other way around.

Not to mention the continued verbal threats directed at Israel.

The US is not without sins. That doesn't mean, in my mind that this agreement was valid.

The heats on. Let's see how Iran responds....I believe Russia and China both pay a huge role in Iran's response. JMO, though.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: enkilo
Plus it is pretty much well established that it was an Israel attack.

Only by those who believe the water is turning the frogs gay...

www.history.com...

This is exactly like the run up to the Iraq war where the whole world is shouting that the weapons inspections are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing, but the Republicans have completely different interests in mind.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: seeker1963

Well, goddamn are you ignorant and wrong... I find it amusing, actually, that someone can come up with a word salad full of lies and ignorance, let's have some fun...


"Every government is criminal! The fact you use the terms "imperialistic", "colonialistic" shows me exactly why you defend cultural Marxism!"

When? When I have I ever defended Marxism or cultural Marxism, if you look throughout my history here I have been outspoken against Marxists, against socialists and against communists, I am an anarchist, we are enemies to all that.

calling Israel Imperialistic and colonialistic does not equal "Cultural Marxism" sorry, maybe learn what the word means before you toss it around as a pejorative

"It's odd that Antifa used to protest about an all empowering, big government, even though it was in the name of Marxism"

Wrong again, First why do you bring up Antifa when no one even mentioned their name? second, "Antifa" never protested against "Marxism" they were created as an umbrella name to fight the rise of Nazism and FAscism, seeing as you always talk about them, you should know that

but now all of a sudden they promote big government and fascist ideologies?

Wrong again, exactly when has "Antifa" promoted "Big Government"? and again, you clearly know the "Ideology" of fascism, and also what Antifa stands for correct?

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce,[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[5][6][7][4][8][9]

so, you are calling "Antifa" Marxist defenders and Fascist ideologues and yet

Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism,

Nice try man, Stay spooked

Bravo!

Calling me ignorant was your first knee jack reaction!

Thanks for proving my point!

God forbid people can have an exchange of ideas?

When people call "Free Speech Hate Speech" they are 2 things. Scared of being confronted with ideas that differ from theirs, and Fascists!

All governments are corrupt! I will stand by that statement till you can show me a country that it's citizens are thriving and government officials are not endebted to globalist bankers and corporations!

a reply to: nwtrucker
and why exactly is your soldiers in Iraq again?

a reply to: Gothmog

Just a thought, but Iran may be viewed as a 'proxy' by both China and Russia. That 'might' be where 'something else is going on' leads to. Just saying.

originally posted by: enkilo
a reply to: nwtrucker
and why exactly is your soldiers in Iraq again?

Play your games elsewhere. If you don't know-which you do- either way, it's off topic and not the point of the thread. Otherwise, carry on....