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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: burdman30ott6
Question , Would Russia or China be OK with a Third World Country with the Ability to Launch ICBM Nuclear Tipped Missiles at them , or , would they see that as Totally Unacceptable as does President Trump ?
originally posted by: Metallicus
Glad we got out of this bad deal.
Will they return the billions of dollars that idiot Obama gave them?
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
originally posted by: Brotherman
So what exactly does all of this mean? How does this affect our lives in the west and how does it affect their lives in the Middle East?
A) The EU and the UK now have an open reason to distrust and oppose Trump. Basically he waved a middle digit at them and seems to have been surprised when they reciprocated. Let me me stress this yet again - you don't spit in the face of your allies.
B) The Middle East is now more unstable than ever before. Iran's hardliners have been strengthened after years of telling everyone that the US can't be trusted to keep their word. Israel's PM thinks that he now has a friend in the White House who will back his plays (he won't, as Trump doesn't understand what he's done and is now being advised by the ultra-hawk Neocon John Bolton. Tremble at the whiffle of his mighty 'tache!) and will possibly do something stupid.
C) The price of oil might go up, depending on what happens next.
D) The deal is still being backed by the EU, so Trump (or rather whoever is unlucky to get stuck with this hot potato) needs to work out how sanctions will affect EU companies that have links to Iran.
In a nutshell? THIS WAS A MORONIC MOVE.
A) European countries will work to make a deal that Trump wants. They have no choice. Whether they like it or not, the US calls the tune. If they try and 'spit in the face' of the USA (which clearly they would never do), their companies will be decimated. They are not going to choose the Iranian economy over the US and they have zero leverage. As for Trump spitting in their faces, well, no. He spit in Obama's face and there is nothing Barry can do about it either, because he never got support for his deal in the first place. If the UK, France Germany were stupid enough to negotiate a deal with the US that did not involve a proper treaty ratified by Congress, then that's on them. Same goes for Iran. Trump has not gone back on a deal the US made. He has nullified a deal that Obama made without the proper support.
B) Actually, the middle east is far more stable than at it's worst under Bush and Obama. Ask the people who are no longer living under the rule of ISIS.
C) It might also go down. ONly an idiot pretends to know what the market will do.
D) Trump has already said how it will effect EU companies. They'll lose out by being sanctioned themselves. Some of the major Western players have already said they are now reviewing their deals. None of them will be prepared to be excluded by the US.
The bottom line is that the USA holds ALL the cards and Trump is playing them. Iran only has two choices. Drop nuclear ambitions or get destroyed and Europe, Russia and China can't save them.
We've all heard the idiot talking heads wrt to NK... oh yeah, moronic tactics by Trump, apparently. Well, they are back in their boxes now eating crow. Same is going to happen here because for the first time in decades the US actually has a backbone. In the long run that makes us all safer, instead of following the spineless 'Neville Chamberlain' approach.
originally posted by: manuelram16
So what part of Obama's legacy is ruined ?
-When he said defiantly to president Bush "Mr. President stop this illegal war"
-Or the "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"
originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Cassi3l
Who said anything about bombing Iran? Pat your horse on the head and calm him, that stick is not a snake, it's a stick. Nobody is going to bomb Iran.
originally posted by: FredT
If you really want to get real the US is in violation of the treaty for pulling out with just cause.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust
That's true of a number of Republicans as well.
Do you know why? I'll tell you. It's because Trump has no idea what to do next.
"We'll see what happens."