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Pence sending gays to Germany....Left Outraged!!!

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posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:03 PM
a reply to: JoshuaCox

And the fact both Trump university and The trump Foundation were total scams.. Lots of people made money. Whiners that did not sued. Who would be dumb enough to pay for that #???

There is a laundry list of blue collar construction types he has refused to pay.. Those who were not paid were after he gave majority control of his casinos to other partners in a second restructure to try to keep those people employed.

His presidential campaign is presently under investigation by the FBI into if he made a deal with the Russians.. and if they have anything it would be out right now....

Not part of the OP but all bull# just the same...

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:03 PM
I dislike when the left uses someones idenity (race, gender, sexuality, etc.) as the focal point of who they are.

So I will hlld to that standard here.

I dont think that this man was disliked by the dems for being gay.

I guess there can be some sort of tit for tat in syaing they like people based merely on their sexuality, so therefore they should have liked this guy for his sexuality.

But I am not interested in that.

He's gay; I dont care. The dems have other reasons for not wanting him.

I hope he does a good job

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:08 PM
Left Outraged...

Most Senate Democrats voted against Grenell, citing issues including his history of making statements insulting to women politicians on the Internet and during cable television appearances.

“Will he insult, via his Twitter account, the female chancellor of Germany? I don’t know. I hope not,” Senator Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, said in a Senate speech opposing Grenell.

When asked about such comments during his confirmation hearing, Grenell said he was trying to be funny, not insulting, and would not have made such statements while serving as a U.S. official. Republican supporters of Grenell dismissed such concerns as political partisanship by Democrats. Grenell’s confirmation made him the highest-ranking openly gay official in the Trump administration.

Grenell is one of over one hundred Trump nominees who have been approved in committee and are waiting for a floor vote to finalize their confirmation. Chris Bedford at The Daily Caller wrote earlier this week that Senate Republicans should force each nomination for a floor debate thus trapping Democrats in DC for tedious senate procedures rather than having the luxury of campaigning in their home states in the months before the critical mid-term elections this November: On
Friday, while 26 Senate Democrats up for re-election went home to their states or elsewhere to speak and raise money with which to batter Republicans in November, 139 of the White House’s nominees languished in positions from undersecretary for arms control and international security affairs to director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center. According to the Senate rules Democrats and their Republican enablers love to cite, they have to wait 30 hours after ending debate.

This has turned into three or so nominees confirmed a week, averaging 79 days a nominee, with McConnell himself griping that at this rate, it will take 11 years to confirm Trump’s nominees.

The left is outraged because they have been trying to stop ALL of his nominations. It is damaging our country but they would rather spite Trump. Vote them all out....campaigning instead of doing their job....

Notice also I never said they were outraged because he is gay. Just they are outraged which they are because no Dems wanted this guy....sometimes you all are too easy to show your true colors.
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posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:08 PM
a reply to: Grambler

Actually, I do think they might be angry for that reason, but not because they think it has anything to do with job performance.

It's for the same reason that Kanye West now has to be shamed and branded a racist.

There is a lot of energy and investment in the narrative that Trump and Pence are racists and homophobes, so even if they will hire and/or nominate people based solely on what they think are job qualifications and less on superficial characteristics like race and sexual orientation, any person of a racial or sexual orientation group who would think of taking them up on such an offer in defiance of that narrative must be blocked and/or shamed publicly in such a manner so as to let supporters know they are confused and evil people.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:10 PM
a reply to: Grambler

The dems have other reasons for not wanting him.

...and those reasons should be in the Congressional Record, if one is interested enough to search.

Meh. I, too, hope he does a good job.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:22 PM
a reply to: The GUT

What was her name?

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 04:28 PM
a reply to: ketsuko

Well yes, you are right about that.

The identity politic pushing progressives HATE having any one of their "oppressed" groups going against the narrative.

So yes, these people like gay or black conservatives get even more vitriol from these progressives.

But all the more reason to not play that game and focus on this guys sexuality.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 05:05 PM
a reply to: Grambler

I agree. The game shouldn't be played, and most times, you don't have to play it because it's more or less self-evident. Most of the classic victim classes of the progressive stack are superficially obvious to sight.

You can see that Nikki Haley is a woman (her minority affiliation is less obvious). You can see that Ben Carson is black.

But in the case of gays, you cannot tell they are gay unless they make it obvious be being over the top stereotypes, and most gays I know of aren't. You generally have to know they for a while in order to pick up on it which is fine and doesn't bother most people.

So in that case, you face a catch-22. Do you let the narrative stand, or do you advertise that minority status in that case? Otherwise, who will ever know because unless the left is stupid enough to go into their usual smear routine, no one likely ever will.
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posted on May, 7 2018 @ 05:30 PM

originally posted by: The GUT
Trump also hired the first woman to oversee construction of a skyscraper. At least she was the first in New York if not the U.S. or maybe even internationally.

That was pretty big in those days and the project was obviously important to him being that it was Trump Tower.

This woman, or her mother rather?

Barbara Res

Apparently, she didn't like him then and she liked him less after working with him. She openly opposed him during the campaign and he tweeted against her as well.

But he did hire her, and that's yuge considering his family's less than shiny history with minorities and women.
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posted on May, 7 2018 @ 06:09 PM

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: matafuchs

I highly doubt this guy was picked by the Trump administration, because they thought he was the best candidate to represent the US.

More like the Trump administration is getting incredibly desperate, when it comes to filling US ambassador positions and at this stage will basically take whoever they can get...

Vacant US ambassador positions have been an ongoing issue for Trump ever since he was elected president.

More than half the world’s population still doesn’t have a US ambassador

Since he fired all the US ambassadors who were political appointees of Barack Obama, US president Donald Trump has had only two replacements confirmed by the Senate: Nikki Haley, to the United Nations, and David Friedman, to Israel. That means the US has no top representative to 57 countries and territories with a total population of 3.9 billion.

I think you missed the part where Democrats have been slow-walking confirmations and trying to turn up dirt on anyone who is waiting for an appointment in order to destroy them in the public court of opinion.

Latest example is Ronny Jackson, who was accused of things it turns out were false. Just enough to make him not want to take the nomination. False accusations that were spread by a Democratic Congressman with no proof whatsoever. But he withdrew, so it worked. By Any Means Necessary, right?

Then people like you eat the CNN BS up and think it's because of lack of appointees.

When all it is really is typical Democrat obstructionism... deny and tie up appointments so the government can't functiion and then blame Trump.

Because... Trump BAD, Hillary victim.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 07:12 PM

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
So who is outraged....

I am. Not one transgender-fluid handicapable vegan person of color to be seen anywhere.

Impeach Trump!

Then you should apply for a government position citing you being a transgender-fluid handicapable vegan person of color as your unique attributes that would make you perfect as a candidate despite you lack of qualifications , experience or any other assets that would make you suitable for the job.

If they don’t give you the job because your obviously not qualified or experienced enough for it then just have a rant about it on Twitter, sue the government for discrimination and then declare that you cannot take the job because you have adopted a gay turtle called Fred.

If you can fit into that something about Trump sexually assaulting you then and only then will you be a true liberal.

Until that day you will remind a right wing transgender-fluid handicapable vegan person of color nut-job, so leave it to use true liberals to have Trump impeached so we can start a campaign against pence and find something new to be outraged by
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posted on May, 7 2018 @ 07:21 PM
a reply to: Kharron

That would be her daughter being an activist not the actual mother...

In the late 70s, he hired her on the spot when she was working at the Grand Hyatt hotel for a major renovation. She was on site managing a project and cursing out a bunch of men who refused to work for her and were not getting their work done.
(Keep in mind just a few years earlier women were barred from construction sites). Trump could see the fight in her. He gave her an incredible opportunity. He appointed her manager of construction on Trump Tower, and from there she went on to become the executive vice president of the Trump Organization. It was a huge jump for her professionally, and it enabled our family to jump classes. In that way, it is a rags-to-riches American story

Sounds like a good deal but then later in the article she gets personal and she was not even around then. A pissed off gay woman with a chip on her shoulder...poor thing.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 08:06 PM

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Kharron
Sounds like a good deal but then later in the article she gets personal and she was not even around then. A pissed off gay woman with a chip on her shoulder...poor thing.

Ahhh who cares about her... poor Trump. There are dozens and dozens of pissed off women with chips on their shoulder around him.

That's gotta be exhausting... poor thing.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 09:44 PM
a reply to: matafuchs

If the B in LGBT stands for Bisexual... does that mean theres only 2 genders?

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 09:48 PM
a reply to: WhyDidIJoin

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 10:00 PM
a reply to: WhyDidIJoin


posted on May, 7 2018 @ 10:01 PM

originally posted by: Kharron

Ahhh who cares about her... poor Trump.

Not only were you embarrassingly wrong (yet again) and unapologetic, but then you make a comment that proves the point of the thread you were astoundingly wrong in. It's a miracle you're alive.

posted on May, 7 2018 @ 10:01 PM
Wrong thread...
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posted on May, 7 2018 @ 10:45 PM

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: matafuchs

What was the beef for the democrats?
I doubt his sexuality was the problem.

Gay white males are at the bottom of the Progressive stack! Conservative gay white males??? REEEE REEEEEE

Reeee reeeee? What does that mean? Are you having a stroke?

posted on May, 8 2018 @ 08:48 AM

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
The rightists are doing exactly what the leftist do of exploiting people to make them seem less bigoted, Pence has been open to pro-conversion therapy

Wait a minute... you mean to tell me, that, not being a gay man himself (as far as we know), that he wasn't born with a full understanding of what it means to be gay, and therefore, at one time in his life, HAD SOME IDEAS!?

How much more bigotry are we going to take from this administration? Ugh!

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