What everyone should know about TRAFFIC TICKETS!!!

I have learned somthing about the judicial system related traffic tickets and smaller infractions that literally EVERY American should know..



At least in MS where I live if you get, for example a traffic ticket. they are just rubber stamping the maximum fine for everyone EVEN IF THEY PLEAD GUILTY..

Let me back up..

The way the justice system is set up. If you come in there and are honest and plead guilty, which saves the state the time and money of a trial. The state is supposed to cut you a deal..



Well they are not doing that...

They have decided to still give people the maximum fine requardless whether you plead guilty or fight it.


So guess what that means???


YOU CANNOT LOSE BY FIGHTING IT, YOU CAN ONLY WIN!!!


Maybe the cop won’t show up, maybe the judge will lower the fine because he thinks it is too high for the infraction..

All kinda stuff can happen..


Here is what you do to know I’m right and be sure your not making a mistake..


When called before the judge or prosecution ask them “what is the fine if I plea guilty??”


Then ask them “what is the fine if I contest it
And lose?”


If it is the same fee either way. That means you cannot lose by fighting it...


I would really like to know how to start an “ad campaign” to make sure people knows this...

If no one plead guilty the judicial system would break in a month.. it could never deal with everyone going to trial..


Which hopefully would make TPTB tighten up and act right...I guarantee they would start giving deals again for pleading guilty...

a reply to: JoshuaCox

How did you make this discovery? It sounds significant.. I would not be surprised if the way they are doing things in MS is par for the course!

originally posted by: JoshuaCox


I have learned somthing about the judicial system related traffic tickets and smaller infractions that literally EVERY American should know..



At least in MS where I live if you get, for example a traffic ticket. they are just rubber stamping the maximum fine for everyone EVEN IF THEY PLEAD GUILTY..

Let me back up..

The way the justice system is set up. If you come in there and are honest and plead guilty, which saves the state the time and money of a trial. The state is supposed to cut you a deal..



Well they are not doing that...

They have decided to still give people the maximum fine requardless whether you plead guilty or fight it.


So guess what that means???


YOU CANNOT LOSE BY FIGHTING IT, YOU CAN ONLY WIN!!!


Maybe the cop won’t show up, maybe the judge will lower the fine because he thinks it is too high for the infraction..

All kinda stuff can happen..


Here is what you do to know I’m right and be sure your not making a mistake..


When called before the judge or prosecution ask them “what is the fine if I plea guilty??”


Then ask them “what is the fine if I contest it
And lose?”


If it is the same fee either way. That means you cannot lose by fighting it...


I would really like to know how to start an “ad campaign” to make sure people knows this...

If no one plead guilty the judicial system would break in a month.. it could never deal with everyone going to trial..


Which hopefully would make TPTB tighten up and act right...I guarantee they would start giving deals again for pleading guilty...

Most of those tickets are just to raise revenue. Sure there are some people who deserve it, but the reality is that it is form a taxation to fund bloated government.

Here in Chicago we have all these local governments using red light cameras and speed cameras even though study after study has shown they don't "Save lives". Red light cameras have been shown to cause more accidents because it makes people brake unexpectedly at intersections. The City of Chicago got caught reduces the yellow light times by a fraction of a second to increase the fines.

It is ironic that you complain about this stuff when you are one of the main "big government" posters on ATS. Maybe you are coming around to see the light.

a reply to: JoshuaCox


Trying to give people legal advice anonymously over the internet is a very dangerous thing to do, especially considering you provided no source materials whatsoever and everything you said (using a legal term) is heresay.

I've known what to do for years...

a reply to: JoshuaCox

Considering traffic tickets are infractions (with the exception of very high speeds, which can be a misdemeanor) they generally have a set fine coupled with court costs. Your best bet is to speak to the prosecutor to get a deal given the nature of the ticket. When it comes to fines judges dont always have the options of leeway (in my state anyways). Generally they are set by the legislature. The prosecuting attorney on the other hand does have leeway when dealing with traffic tickets and the outcome.

Unlike other infractions speeding citations require an officer to be monitoring traffic. They have to observe you traveling faster than the posted speed limit. They then activate the radar or lidar or pace to verify the infraction, at which point they can initiate the traffic stop.

If you get a ticket they note the date and time of the next court appearance on the ticket with a minimum of 30 days out. They can push the date out farther if need be.

You can fight the ticket however speeding is one of those situations where by the time you are stopped the infraction has already been verified to hold up in court. There are scenarios that can affect the outcome (weather conditions / amount of traffic / type of traffic / officers certifications / etc).

Traffic citations issued by municipal agencies and the fine are different from county or state agencies in terms of where the collected fines go. County and State law enforcement have their fines sent to the state where a municipal officer has their fines sent to the city. Most states have alws that restrict how much funding a police agency can get from speeding tickets. Any amount collected that goes over the threshold has to go somewhere other than the police agency by law (at least in my state). County / State citations have fines going towards educational programs (drivers ed etc) in addition to a certain portion going into the retirement funds. A big chunk goes towards court costs. Generally speaking, in my state, a county / state citation sees about a $1 going back to the agency who issued the citation.


What you posted is pretty much common knowledge.

I've managed to avoid almost all traffic tickets by not doing things that lead to traffic tickets. That was easy.

I see people turn from the wrong lane all the time. I see people barely slow down at stop signs all the time. Excessive speeding all the time. They got the maximum fine for getting caught? Cry me a river.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I haven't had a ticket in about 6 years, but last time in my state, the ticket lets you either plead guilty, plead guilty with an explanation, or fight it. If you plead guilty, you get the fine and the points. If fight it, you go to court. If you please guilty with an explanation, you go before the judge but the officer doesn't have to be there. For every one of my tickets, they dropped the points. Some judges drop all fines except court fees, others will actually raise the fine since you aren't getting points. I've also seen others the the full points and get a higher fine when they went before the judge, but those were not regular speeders, these were people that were over 100 mph in a 65 zone.

What everyone should know about TRAFFIC TICKETS!!!

That when self driving cars get fully adopted.

Cops, and cities and going to cry when their revenue streams dry up.

No more moving violations.

No more speeding tickets.

No more parking meters.

a reply to: JoshuaCox

I was recently pulled over in Ms and issued 3 tickets. His reason for pulling me over was because my license plate frame was partially covering the county on my tag... at least that's what he said. The real reason is because I was a white guy driving through a black neighborhood (which is the quickest route to and from work for me).

But here's the thing, the law specifically states that it is NOT unlawful to partially or even completely cover the county.

I wonder if I can sue them over this?

a reply to: Bone75

Probably thought you were buying drugs...

I drive through a very rough neighborhood daily. West side of Chicago. White people stick out like a sore thumb and you can almost always tell when they are there to buy drugs. Granted, there are some who do drive through commuting, but you can usually tell the difference between the drug addicts and commuters.

We have set fees for tickets.
And if you get caught speeding just pay the damn ticket.

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: Bone75

Probably thought you were buying drugs...

I drive through a very rough neighborhood daily. West side of Chicago. White people stick out like a sore thumb and you can almost always tell when they are there to buy drugs. Granted, there are some who do drive through commuting, but you can usually tell the difference between the drug addicts and commuters.

Well yes, he was a narcotics officer who asked me three times if I stopped to buy drugs. He was behind me the whole time. He knows I never stopped.

But even if I was in the neighborhood buying dope, it was still an unlawful stop.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: Bone75

Probably thought you were buying drugs...

I drive through a very rough neighborhood daily. West side of Chicago. White people stick out like a sore thumb and you can almost always tell when they are there to buy drugs. Granted, there are some who do drive through commuting, but you can usually tell the difference between the drug addicts and commuters.

Well yes, he was a narcotics officer who asked me three times if I stopped to buy drugs. He was behind me the whole time. He knows I never stopped.

But even if I was in the neighborhood buying dope, it was still an unlawful stop.

If the neighborhood in question is a high crime area and you are not from that area a stop can be made given all the factors. Not being from the area is not justification for a stop. There has to be other factors.

a reply to: Xcathdra

§ 27-19-31. License tags or plates and renewal license decals; issuance and duration; contents; fastening to vehicles; county designation on license tags; defaced tags and decals

Such license plate, all characters and any legally affixed decals shall not be defaced, covered or obstructed from view by any object, decal, sticker, paint, marking or license plate bracket or holder. Any person who defaces, covers or obstructs any portion of a license tag with any sticker, decoration, paint, marking, license plate bracket or holder or any other thing or device, in such a manner that the characters and any legally affixed decals on the tag cannot be read, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, shall be punished by a fine of not more than Twenty-five Dollars ($ 25.00). However, it shall not be unlawful for the county name to be partially or completely obstructed from view by any object, decal, sticker or license plate bracket or holder.

state law

a reply to: Bone75

I stand corrected - my apologies.

originally posted by: JoshuaCox


I have learned somthing about the judicial system related traffic tickets and smaller infractions that literally EVERY American should know..



At least in MS where I live if you get, for example a traffic ticket. they are just rubber stamping the maximum fine for everyone EVEN IF THEY PLEAD GUILTY..

Let me back up..

The way the justice system is set up. If you come in there and are honest and plead guilty, which saves the state the time and money of a trial. The state is supposed to cut you a deal..



Well they are not doing that...

They have decided to still give people the maximum fine requardless whether you plead guilty or fight it.


So guess what that means???


YOU CANNOT LOSE BY FIGHTING IT, YOU CAN ONLY WIN!!!


Maybe the cop won’t show up, maybe the judge will lower the fine because he thinks it is too high for the infraction..

All kinda stuff can happen..


Here is what you do to know I’m right and be sure your not making a mistake..


When called before the judge or prosecution ask them “what is the fine if I plea guilty??”


Then ask them “what is the fine if I contest it
And lose?”


If it is the same fee either way. That means you cannot lose by fighting it...


I would really like to know how to start an “ad campaign” to make sure people knows this...

If no one plead guilty the judicial system would break in a month.. it could never deal with everyone going to trial..


Which hopefully would make TPTB tighten up and act right...I guarantee they would start giving deals again for pleading guilty...

Generally.. You go, plead guilty/w explanation... pay fine... but won't get points on your record so your car insurance rates won't go up.

What do you mean, "They are supposed to cut you a deal."? Does it say that anywhere in the statutes, ie did you just make it up?

a reply to: Bone75
He could as easily said you were driving erratically, that's why he stopped you. His word against yours. Who would the courts believe? I could almost guarantee they will believe the cop.