FBI Raids Offices of Trump lawyer

From BBC

FBI 'raids Trump lawyer's office'
6 minutes ago

The FBI have raided the offices of Michael Cohen, the long-time personal lawyer for US President Donald Trump.

Law enforcement acted on a "referral" from Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who is investigating suspected Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Officials in New York seized "privileged communications" between Mr Cohen and his clients, his lawyer said in a statement after the raid.

Developing story. Stay tuned. BBC link

a reply to: Byrd

And the witch hunt continues.

When the brakes are finally applied to this run away circus I think everyone involved will have an awkward future ahead of them.

I think The Donald is about to take his gloves off. There will be blood from both sides during this struggle.

If the deep state can't stop the trouble coming from the OIG report and document releases they will get nastier than we can easily imagine.

I'm kind of expecting some kind of info to drop this evening after some in Congress read the unreacted FISA stuff.

a reply to: Byrd

Seizing confidential documents covered under attorney client privileged...

That is going to be ugly.

Also a big nono...

Its like Mueller is in a race between his whitch hunt and one of the federal judges overseeing Manaforts motion or Flynns case to see who gets their first. Mueller with charges or one of the judges dismissing the case for misconduct, ending Ahab's white whale hunt.

New York Times article

Looks like they went after a lot of stuff, including Stormy Daniels documentation.

a reply to: tadaman

You mean with Pence? Yeah, that's going to suck in a whole different way. Although Trump signed off on FOSTA, which I thought would only go through if we got Pence.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Byrd

Seizing confidential documents covered under attorney client privileged...

That is going to be ugly.

Also a big nono

No, that was covered by the warrant. In this case, the attorney-client privilege is not sacred.

Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Byrd

Seizing confidential documents covered under attorney client privileged...

That is going to be ugly.

Also a big nono

No, that was covered by the warrant. In this case, the attorney-client privilege is not sacred.

lol... sure.

Because warrants are never tossed out in court or evidence seized by them suppressed. In order to seize documents protected by attorney client privilege they have to demonstrate criminal complicity in a crime and must demonstrate the lawyers involvement.

Paying a porn star doesnt qualify.
It is not related to Trump-Russia.

Also Mueller and people on his staff have been nailed by judges before for pulling that #. It will end the same here - thrown out by a judge and the prosecutor in trouble.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

Congress has you covered. If he fails to turn over subpoenaed documents he faces contempt of congress charges and impeachment.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

Congress has you covered. If he fails to turn over subpoenaed documents he faces contempt of congress charges and impeachment.

I hope so because I'm tired of watching tons of taxpayer dollars being wasted on this joke of an investigation.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

Congress has you covered. If he fails to turn over subpoenaed documents he faces contempt of congress charges and impeachment.

I hope so because I'm tired of watching tons of taxpayer dollars being wasted on this joke of an investigation.

Let me correct that..

Rosenstein faces those things. Mueller would come after Rosenstein is removed.

*Eats popcorn, drinks beer and grins*
I've been expecting this. The payments to Daniels stink to high heaven in terms of timing.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

Congress has you covered. If he fails to turn over subpoenaed documents he faces contempt of congress charges and impeachment.

I hope so because I'm tired of watching tons of taxpayer dollars being wasted on this joke of an investigation.

Really? Were you equally tired after the 11th Congressional 'investigation' into Clinton and Benghazi?

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

Congress has you covered. If he fails to turn over subpoenaed documents he faces contempt of congress charges and impeachment.

I hope so because I'm tired of watching tons of taxpayer dollars being wasted on this joke of an investigation.

Really? Were you equally tired after the 11th Congressional 'investigation' into Clinton and Benghazi?

She was complicit in the death of a US ambassador and security personnel.

45 opened his big mouth to the press on AF1 and claimed he had no knowledge of the agreement His attorney arranged with Ms. Daniels, and that he did not know where his attorney got the $130K his attorney supposedly paid to Ms. Daniels.

In doing so, Trump may very well have invalidated any claim to attorney-client privilege insofar as matters concerning the details of that agreement and/or its existence.

Can’t be any privilege if one the parties doesn’t know of the communication to be considered privileged, right?

And since Trump doesn’t know (or at least, claimed not to know) where his attorney got the money to pay Ms. Daniels, it seems only logical that the special counsel would want to track that information down; to verify whether the ultimate source of those funds could, or would have had any bearing on his investigation.

If the Doofus in Chief had just kept his trap shut, Mueller would not have had the opening.

originally posted by: The GUT
I think The Donald is about to take his gloves off. There will be blood from both sides during this struggle.

If the deep state can't stop the trouble coming from the OIG report and document releases they will get nastier than we can easily imagine.

I'm kind of expecting some kind of info to drop this evening after some in Congress read the unreacted FISA stuff.

We've seen him with his gloves off before... a savage tweet or six, a meandering diatribe in fragmentary sentences when he goes "off-script" or "free range", and he'll fire someone on his staff. Any legal action he tries to take (Executive order or threats) will run up against a wall of Trump Doesn't Know The Law (but acts or tweets impulsively, which makes him very ineffective when he runs up against attorneys and judges.

a reply to: Bhadhidar

The problem with that is the disclosure came from Daniels / her lawyer and not Trump or his lawyer.

Her lawyer also violated by filing his paperwork without noting it was confidential.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Byrd

Seizing confidential documents covered under attorney client privileged...

That is going to be ugly.

Also a big nono

No, that was covered by the warrant. In this case, the attorney-client privilege is not sacred.

lol... sure.

Because warrants are never tossed out in court or evidence seized by them suppressed. In order to seize documents protected by attorney client privilege they have to demonstrate criminal complicity in a crime and must demonstrate the lawyers involvement.

Paying a porn star doesnt qualify.
It is not related to Trump-Russia.

Also Mueller and people on his staff have been nailed by judges before for pulling that #. It will end the same here - thrown out by a judge and the prosecutor in trouble.

Care to make a friendly bet on that?

My own reading of this is that it had to be pretty big and serious to get the FBI in on the raid (otherwise it would be done by locals.) I would bet that he dotted all the i's (twice!)and crossed all the t's in before putting this forward to a judge to get the warrant.

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
Trump should fire Mueller and call it a day.

Congress has you covered. If he fails to turn over subpoenaed documents he faces contempt of congress charges and impeachment.

I hope so because I'm tired of watching tons of taxpayer dollars being wasted on this joke of an investigation.

Really? Were you equally tired after the 11th Congressional 'investigation' into Clinton and Benghazi?

She was complicit in the death of a US ambassador and security personnel.

"Complicit"? Plot it out with the terrorists did she?
Please stop making me laugh so hard. Eleven investigations and diddly/squat in terms of actual blame.
Nice try though.