Senate approves anti-sex-trafficking bill

www.cnn.com...

Washington (CNN)The Senate voted Wednesday to approve an anti-sex-trafficking bill that would allow victims of sex trafficking to seek justice against online platforms that knowingly facilitate the act, a move that prosecutors, victims and anti-trafficking activists are heralding as an essential step in cracking down on the crime. But others, such as tech advocacy groups, fear the limitations it could place on free speech on the internet. The bill passed 97-2, and now goes to the White House for President Donald Trump's signature. The White House has expressed support for the proposal.

I really did not want to be the one to have to bring this to your attention. I do not think any single user on here approves of sex trafficking but this bill is an internet killer. It paves the way to remove any and all freedom from you the user of the web. It has to be stopped. This will pave the way to silence the net as we know it because it will usher in a tyrannical state where your rights are no longer philosophically taken away but in a literal way they will be killing free speech.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This killer sits on the presidents desk awaiting his signature to become law.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—

Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Strange new world we live in today. When they have to write a new law like this pertaining to the internet, it is getting a little crazy in society. I do feel we need something, I do not know if this law will accomplish anything other than chaos though. I can see some people getting in trouble for flurting on the net or joking about something.

a reply to: howtonhawky

What is the problem exactly? You contend a website that knowingly facilitates sex trafficking should have no culpability?

I'm all for freedom of speech, but come on.... basically the government is saying "help us honeypot perverts", which I don't have a problem with.

eta: I don't care what acts consenting adults engage in. I only care about more naive and young ones, which is what I presume to be the target.

a reply to: rickymouse

I'll star you for contribution but can you be more specific how this will get someone in trouble for flirting?

a reply to: drewlander
The gubment has already been honey potting pervs for sometime now. Yes sex trafficking is a rising problem but not to the extent this bill needs to be passed. They could easily step up their game without such a bill.

Only a fool would think removing dating platforms will stop sex trafficking.

As it stands now if the popo would leave the hookers alone and focus their efforts on finding those who are being held beyond their will on those sites then good things would come.

As it stands this bill will only force sex workers into more danger and the sex trafficking will continue on as usual.

Just like banning guns does not reduce gun violence in the usa the same goes for this.

On top of that this will pave the way for future bans in the name of victims until you no longer have freedom.

Again i did not want to be here bringing this up but it really seems that so many are lulled to sleep on these issues.

How do we distinguish hookers from "victims of sex trafficking"?

Is there a difference?

And how would this bill affect anything but sites that facilitate hookers to not have to stand out on the street corner?

In Tampa I lived off the main road notorious for decades as the main hooker corridor (like Woodward in Detroit). Not all of them used backpage, as there would be some lingering around outside at night on ceetain patches of the strip, but mobs of hookers out on the street just wasnt the case. For the most part you wouldnt even know they were around unless you ventured out late at night at said patches.

My impression has always been that since they has craigslist / backpage to discreetly gather up their own little clientle they didnt need to be 'broken windows' and loiter out on all the corners to do it.

Well just see if that changes again (careful what you wish for yos)....

a reply to: howtonhawky

Pedophilia/sex trafficking is the one thing no one in their right mind would come to the defense of. And that's why it'll be used against us.

I bet a lot of people wouldn't mind handing over the 1st and 4th amendments if it was done under the guise of stopping human trafficking/pedophilia.

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: howtonhawky

What is the problem exactly? You contend a website that knowingly facilitates sex trafficking should have no culpability?

Here's the problem. Imagine a large website, like ATS, for example. Imagine that some group of people doesn't want us using it, doesn't want us coming here and talking about MSM lies or whatever... So they sneak in content from time to time that violates the very broadly defined rules and then report the site. Now, despite the fact that it's literally impossible for moderators or admins to police every single thing that is posted, written or said, the owners of the site are now liable to face criminal charges and have the site legally taken down... And it's starting. Popular websites have already been taken down. Others are removing sections entirely that put them at risk.
It sounds good in theory, but this gives way more power to censor and remove websites that TPTB deem a threat than it does to actually combat trafficking. It's basically the same thing as giving the government the legal authority to arrest a car salesman and shut down the dealership when someone uses a car they bought there in the commission of a crime.
Another point to make is that this bill simply makes it harder to actually catch the predators using the internet to facilitate their endeavors. Before Backpage was taken down, if someone found advertisements indicating sex trafficking, the police could easily set up a sting operation and arrest those responsible or rescue the victims. Now? Well they've moved on to who knows where. Backpage was basically the perfect honeypot, but now it's shut down.

Nobody is saying illegal sex trafficking should be taking place. This isn't about preventing trafficking, it's about giving the government the power to shut down websites and censor free speech.

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

How do we distinguish hookers from "victims of sex trafficking"?

The most rational way would be legalization of paid sex.

I wonder what they will think of next to further push censorship and control? This is only the first in a many future line of new laws that will be geared in the same manner I imagine.

Sex trafficking is bad but curtailing rights to end the practice is no where near to being the right answer to fix the problem.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

How do we distinguish hookers from "victims of sex trafficking"?

The most rational way would be legalization of paid sex.

I agree.

Maybe one day people will realize that forcing things that can be dangerous underground only makes them more dangerous. To the individual and society.

When I see things like this, I can't help but get the feeling we're being patriot acted again. The people in power using fear to take more control and power.

I know some sex workers who this will affect and make it more dangerous for them likewise
agreed with above, that "prostitution" and all sex-work should be legal, who has the goddamn "right" to control people and what they do...

a reply to: underwerks

Yep and i do not even agree personally with paying for sex or having random encounters.

I do feel that if people were taught about the energy their bodies have and what acts can remove ones energy in the future by what we do today then more people would fight the urge to buy holes.

Education not tyrannical force in this matter.

Case in point look at what just happened to trump. It took 10yrs but the energy always causes changes to ones future ans if stormy would not have appeared on tv on eye dilating medication then we would be worse off today.

originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: howtonhawky



eta: I don't care what acts consenting adults engage in.

If you support this law, you do. This will cripple the sex industry as well as shut down several sites.

originally posted by: trollz
Here's the problem. Imagine a large website, like ATS, for example. Imagine that some group of people doesn't want us using it, doesn't want us coming here and talking about MSM lies or whatever... So they sneak in content from time to time that violates the very broadly defined rules and then report the site. Now, despite the fact that it's literally impossible for moderators or admins to police every single thing that is posted, written or said, the owners of the site are now liable to face criminal charges and have the site legally taken down... And it's starting. Popular websites have already been taken down. Others are removing sections entirely that put them at risk.

Okay now that makes sense and really is dangerous.

Like just imagine if the SJW's would have had this in effect since 2012.

a reply to: rickymouse

If it’s the same law I heard about. It requires every isp to provide a feature that sorts any possible incoming data and can block what they choose.

Supposedly, all the “adult material” as well as child/revenge porn.

Any program set up to sort all the data, can inherently do whatever it wants..


TPTB should just find, track and hack the websites..


Use the websites as bait.

a reply to: howtonhawky

Government will find any reason, conflate any issue, produce/provide/promote any issue that will inhibit the concept of free expression.



Sex trafficking, sexual issues with minors is already illegal.



Will this make it illegalerest?

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: trollz
Here's the problem. Imagine a large website, like ATS, for example. Imagine that some group of people doesn't want us using it, doesn't want us coming here and talking about MSM lies or whatever... So they sneak in content from time to time that violates the very broadly defined rules and then report the site. Now, despite the fact that it's literally impossible for moderators or admins to police every single thing that is posted, written or said, the owners of the site are now liable to face criminal charges and have the site legally taken down... And it's starting. Popular websites have already been taken down. Others are removing sections entirely that put them at risk.

Okay now that makes sense and really is dangerous.

Like just imagine if the SJW's would have had this in effect since 2012.

That would be crazy.

Almost as crazy as the current SJR (social justice regressives) that are running our government at the moment being behind this.

Almost.

Washington (CNN)The Senate voted Wednesday to approve an anti-sex-trafficking bill that would allow victims of sex trafficking to seek justice against online platforms that knowingly facilitate the act, a move that prosecutors, victims and anti-trafficking activists are heralding as an essential step in cracking down on the crime.But others, such as tech advocacy groups, fear the limitations it could place on free speech on the internet. The bill passed 97-2, and now goes to the White House for President Donald Trump's signature. The White House has expressed support for the proposal.

Answer me this.

What do you think happens to young,hispanic women that are brought here across the southern border?

Does that sex trafficking count?