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originally posted by: hombero
This has been known for a few years now. Even in the fluff publications. Surely you don't think the average ATSer is new to this party? We've known this for quite some time and hopefully most have already taken steps to mitigate the issue.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: hombero
But recently we have learned how pervasive and invasive the big phone companies and internet companies are.
I think Google provides so many free services on Android and Apple, because they sell that data to advertisers, research firms, and others. So essentially, they're making money off of us, even though we're not paying for the services.
Google Photos' Unlimited Free Storage was the most mysterious to me, until yesterday.
originally posted by: Wildmanimal
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
No Cell Phones Beyond This Point.
No Exceptions.
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
originally posted by: hombero
This has been known for a few years now. Even in the fluff publications. Surely you don't think the average ATSer is new to this party? We've known this for quite some time and hopefully most have already taken steps to mitigate the issue.
Well I recently asked a number of people who consider themselves "up" and knowledgeable on the current going's on of politics and the "news" and said they had heard of this. I'm in IT (used to focus on sys/network admin & security) so I asked them some more pointed questions about the apps, what they use (free or pay apps), do they read the fine print or even the TOS (sometimes 1/2 page to coupld pages before the small print starts) and all said no. Most had no idea that the programs they use could do any of this, yet they are the ones who are qick to yell about using some non-harmful chemical in a way not marketed (but completely safe and a known use in industry for the chemical..) all because they saw it in the news.
I swear, the adults that I grew up with who used to think for themselves seem to have been lobotomized in many ways and have turned into scardy cats and have bought into the media's fear campaigns on all/most things publicly available. I feel like I'm dealing with people who have lost all common sense and are operating at an 8th grade level in many areas when they have advanced degrees. their argument capability has also changed, their observational skills (situational or just inter-personal or daily - in store/office) all seem to have been reduced by 30-80% from what I observed them 10-25 years ago. They seem like totally different people wearing the skins of the people I once knew. How often to people change 70% of their viewpoints after they reach 60 years old. I would think very few would be like this but i've seen MANY, if not most, that I know who are like this. Don't know where to post this to see if others have noticed, but it is one of my biggest concerns and has effected a LARGE number of people I know. very odd.
originally posted by: Mandroid7
Good topic.
Yep, if it's free, you are the product.
This problem is way beyond yanking data with apps.
It's a hardware and os level problem hard coded into all new phones now.
Run logging page on No Root Firewall, if you want to check out the page-long list of servers your cellphone hooks to before installing any other apps.
It's eye opening.