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Telford sex gang shuttled men in by MINI BUS to abuse young victims at derelict house

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posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 01:44 PM
It has been revealed in the last day that the Independent Inquiry into CSA will be visiting Telford to speak to some of the estimated 1000 victims .
While overtly the news has been recognised the deeper facts that this Mirror article contains describe disturbing realities .

The failure of members to produce evidence for their arguments or to read further into osi available on these matters is often of concern . As if members are getting their news , only from here . For example the last thread on this matter became something of a farce , where the identification of the origins of the main ground-level co-ordinators or tools of the abuse (ethnicity[ Pakistani ] or [Muslims ] ) became the central issue , as if the 7 men charged were the only abusers.
So a pointless debate from relatively ignorant perspectives took place . Meanwhile this evidence was available

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From the cited source :

One officer who investigated the case told the Sunday Mirror that police were overwhelmed by the scale of the scandal and “frustrated” that so few of the predators were jailed

Child victims of the 'worst ever' sex gang in Telford were taken to a derelict house where men were shuttled out by MINI BUS to abuse them, police have revealed.

Three officers who investigated the horrific case have revealed just how the victims were failed.

One cop told the Sunday Mirror that police were overwhelmed by the scale of the scandal and “frustrated” that so few of the predators, predominantly from the town’s Pakistani Muslim community, were jailed.

The officer said: “At one point we had 70 cases and one victim had close to 100 offenders. In one case women were taken to a derelict building near Birmingham and men were being shuttled out in mini bus runs to abuse them.

"Many officers were frustrated because the CPS was treating the cases as separate when we knew they were linked. “If we could have got four or five of the girls with the strongest cases and asked them to identify the worst offenders I believe more men could have ended up in jail.”

READ MORE 'I was raped and pimped out to VIP sex parties at 20 and kept my dark secret for 38 years'

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A second said he was “horrified” after court orders against more than 20 suspects were abandoned – allegedly after chiefs said it “was too much trouble”.

Another told of the “huge” scale of abuse and said more convictions could have been achieved if the cases had been properly linked at the time.

Meanwhile, the mother of an abused girl who died revealed she gave police a three-page list of suspects – but claimed nothing was done.

The same girl and a fellow 13-year-old were reportedly in a car driven by abusers that was stopped by police – but allowed to go.

The officers came forward after Supt Tom Harding, of West Mercia Police, said he “significantly disputed” our probe and claimed an ­estimate of 1,000 victims was “sensationalised”. But a string of experts have supported our figures and today the question remains – why didn’t the police do more?

One of the police whistleblowers said of the feared 1,000 toll: “I don’t think it’s beyond the realms of possibility at all.

"I wouldn’t be surprised. It was the tip of the iceberg.”

Today, Assistant Chief Constable Martin Evans denied court orders were discounted because of the level of work required. But our sources stood by their account. And going public showed their concern over the true scale of the problem and the police response.
One said: “There were lots of people that were suspected of abuse but not put before the courts.

“Two senior officers had a conversation about going for Sexual Risk Orders. It would have meant they would be monitored by the police. It can be effective with a low reoffending rate.

“The question was, should we apply for 20 or 25 of these orders? The view from the senior officer was it was too much trouble. A lot of us were horrified when they didn’t want to do that.

“It would have been a lot of work but what price do we put on protecting these kids?”

The court orders were considered for suspects identified by cops as part of Operation Chalice – which saw just seven men jailed in 2012.

A third officer told us: “The orders were discussed at a senior level with lawyers and the CPS. We were anticipating a number of people would go on those orders. It didn’t take place.”

Professionals’ tragic catalogue of lost chances to end torment

Witnesses claim police failed to fully investigate the circumstances of three deaths of abuse victims in the town in the 2000s.

Operation Chalice was launched nine years after teenage Lucy Lowe was killed by her abuser in an arson attack along with her older sister and their mother.

Underage girls – including those reported missing – were stopped in cars driven by their older abusers but they tell us that no questions were asked.


Medical professionals are accused of failing to question why underage girls were having abortions, miscarriages and taking the morning after pill.

One victim told us: “I was going into the doctors and the youth sexual health clinic to get the morning after pill, probably twice a week, and nobody even questioned anything. I had two abortions, still nothing was said.”


Schools failed to act on reports that Asian paedophiles were targeting schoolgirls outside Telford schools as long ago as 2000. One teacher allegedly asked an 11-year-old victim if she was sexually active but did nothing about it apart from warning her not to associate with an older abuse victim.

A string of young girls were falling pregnant to older Asian men but we are told that social services failed to address the problem.

One council report from 2013 admitted: “From the late 1990s professionals working in Telford and Wrekin had concerns about the nature of some of the child sexual abuse cases presented to them.”

It states that the abuse only became a “priority” for the local safeguarding teams in 2009.

Nightmare by numbers
100 victims from 2007 to 2009 identified by Operation Chalice cops

200 suspected offenders identified

50 officers work on the case

Only seven paedophiles are jailed as a result of Operation Chalice

715 child sexual abuse “contacts” are dealt with by Telford Council’s Family Connect team from 2013 to 2016

Experts estimate that up to 1,000 victims were targeted in more than four decades of abuse

256 child sex crimes were recorded by Telford Council in the year to September 2015 – the highest rate in the UK


From further reading regarding IICSA's visit to Telford , bear in mind that these 'local level' incidences are not within the scope of the Inquiry

which is dealing with abuses committed from within 13 differentcentral establishments , such as the Church of England , and penitential institutions . While IICSA apparently has enough to do as it is .. are they looking in the wrong places ? And if this kind of recruitment ground , Telford , is not within their scope , how many other towns and cities have this problem ? It is suggested here that , like drug abuse (in only so many ways) , this exact type of problem described here in every single city and town across England Wales Scotland and Ireland

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posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 01:57 PM
That's nothing. Hollywood has that beat by a mile. It is so sick and prevalent that quantifying it is impossible, and qualifying it is too much for my stomach. These people need to be drug out into the street and shot, to quote Garfield.

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 02:08 PM
a reply to: MisterMcKill

Oh dear , that can be beleived , unfortunately . Although will it make mainstream news at some point ? This user once took ridicule over an assessment that there were over 1 million UK victims of this (networked) problem in the 3-4 decades . Far more than terrorism , even when likely numbers of linked child murders(in Teleford there at least 3 or 4 known about) probably do outweigh the total number of terror victims the UK has recorded . Disturbing , yes , but it has to be faced down , no question .
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posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 02:36 PM
MSM will at most "just" touch this and move on quickly and as for the CPS well the mind is baffled to how they run a case, I have a honestly held belief they toss a coin to see how or if they will prosecute. Case in point they attempted to stitch up that young lad recently over a rape case when there was evidence withheld that told a totally different story and would clear him before it ever got near a court room..

It is fairly obvious that there is a motive to this case, I am sure most can work out what the current agenda is....

From the article “The question was, should we apply for 20 or 25 of these orders? The view from the senior officer was it was too much trouble".

Alarm bells should be ringing


posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 02:39 PM

Fingers are pointing at the CPS . While they the Crown Prosecution Service apparently have the right to dismiss the work of detectives , and to deny the linking of cases which would narrow the conspiritors into a targetable area .

The CPS are reported to have dismissed a case brought to them by senior detectives which involved a parliamentiary politician and a member of the Royal Family in 2015 , on the grounds that it would pose a threat to national security .

The CPS staff of up 3000 are reported to widely mistrust the management , currently Alison Saunders , plus Kevin McGinty of the CPS Inspectorate , her long term friend (cite Telegraph/ Guardian) and the current Attorney General (cite his name and face).

It has been reported that the CPS also employ complicit lawyers , such that were a prosecution case have to be made , it could be made to fail if the correct lawyer was assigned it .

Who can prosecute the corrupt from within the CPS ? Who can prosecute without the CPS ? Therefore , fingers remain pointing at them

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 03:34 PM
This stuff blows my mind. Yes, WHY is this not being addressed more. a reply to: ZIPMATT

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 03:45 PM
But... but .... but Skripal!
And the russians, evil Putin!

How dare you to talk about Telford, traitor of your country!

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 03:48 PM

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
This stuff blows my mind. Yes, WHY is this not being addressed more. a reply to: ZIPMATT

Good men, by their nature, do nothing.

I hope one day it will be different, and good can band together to purge these scum from the earth.

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 04:10 PM
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

There are several reasons for that , very good question perhaps requiring another thread . One reason this subject is often left alone is that allegations of a sexual nature can bring their own sleazy connotations unintendedly onto the bringers . Especially if there is a lack of plausible victims present . As we see very clearly here however , at least in this case and the varied others which are very similar there is no lack of victims whatsoever .
Its imperative to address the similarities forthwith also .

Another reason is that , respectable people who respectably leave keywords such as p-philia out of their civilly respectable lives .. dont, or at least didn;t tend to click on the subject , even if it was uncovering factual news .

There's other reasons too , thankfully not ones that won't be overcome eventually , such as there appears to be an active campaign by groups , networks eg pie to counter those who have seen enough to know about this , to know that it matters, very high up the list of what really matters in life . If we fail to protect children , we have failed as a species , and failed as individuals .

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 05:55 PM
a reply to: ZIPMATT

Apalling and there was another case in Oxford recently. Similar thing.

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 06:44 PM
The true meaning of the "short bus" finally comes out.
Short on morality, short on compassion, short where else?
One can only hope the victims will be able to laugh about anything after what they've endured.
Shame on the police for aiding and abetting by their willful ignorance.
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posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 07:13 PM

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
But... but .... but Skripal!
And the russians, evil Putin!

How dare you to talk about Telford, traitor of your country!
Brah, how dare you distract from our youthful liege David Hogg and March for our lives. Muh Russia is sooooo last year.

posted on Mar, 27 2018 @ 07:16 PM

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
This stuff blows my mind. Yes, WHY is this not being addressed more. a reply to: ZIPMATT

Good men, by their nature, do nothing.

I hope one day it will be different, and good can band together to purge these scum from the earth.
And also a ton of self seeking or selfish people do nothing in the face of problems in society.

Have faith though, some people do take a stand on various issues. I've seen it. The problem here, and why many people don't do it, is it often sets you up to be targeted in one way or another. So it takes a lot of courage. At best, exposing corrupt things can mean you aren't advanced in your career. Very seldom are people truly rewarded.
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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 06:58 AM
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

It is certainly not unworthwhile to put our views across the internets . Among the variable harvesters are some who listen to amateur dorks like us .

Consider this , but also the reverse aspect

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