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a reply to: Woodcarver
That has been the lie since day one..."Ye shall be as gods"

originally posted by: Woodcarver
What is your opinion of talking openly on this forum with me about lodge business and the mythology of Masonry? We could use the books, and everyone could follow along?

No issues with it.

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: childoffather
They were history channel docs.

Even better. I'd love to see these 'History Channel docs' on Luciferianism.

Do you believe in the Devil? I don't. I think you are more likely to be a Luciferian than me since you think that myth is real.

Oh, and please, please, please, someone throw out that lame trope about the greatest trick and all. Please.

Why don't you believe in the devil?

Because the devil is a made up idea. Made by humans who don’t think they have any agency in the world. They want to believe that some outside source is corrupting them. What they really need to understand is, that it is just normal biology, and those feelings come from themselves. It is their responsibility to control themselves, and that they should not blame others for their own actions.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
Well, you certainly couldn’t admit to it if you did know. That could actually leave you open to criminal liability.

Which is why I would report it if I did find out about it, the inside of a prison is not what I dream of.

But.... there is definitely room in the words to justify it in some cases?

Not in your jurisdiction, it's very clear about obeying the laws of the state in which you live.

originally posted by: Violater1
Why don't you believe in the devil?

Because I'm not a child and don't believe in fairy tales.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Why don't you believe in the devil?

Because I'm not a child and don't believe in fairy tales.

So what drives a person to do evil?

originally posted by: childoffather
a reply to: Woodcarver
That has been the lie since day one..."Ye shall be as gods"

That actually wasn’t the lie.

The lie was that they would surely die.

Adam and eve were not immortal in the stories. God removed them from the garden so they wouldn’t eat of the tree of everlasting life, and then become like the gods. If they could have gotten to that other tree, they would have become like the gods. That “serpent” was trying to free adam and eve from the kennel of eden. Or so the story goes.

originally posted by: Violater1
So what drives a person to do evil?

Their inability to control themesleves.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Really? Because he is the hidden hand behind this web of lies in all factions of society. I am excited because we may be the generation to see his demise and we will soon laugh at him as he has been laughing at us all along. Do you really think all these problems here on earth were only created by man? No, we do not fight flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness in high places...that is very evident. Where do you think the evil tyrants trying to rule the world get their ideas and desires from? No, no human could create this chaos we no see without supernatural means.

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
Why don't you believe in the devil?

Because I'm not a child and don't believe in fairy tales.

So what drives a person to do evil?

evil is just a term we use when an act is deemed egregious. What we are really talking about is, why do humans hurt eachother? And the answer to that is usually because that person was neglected in the care, love, and understanding that we need to grow into compassionate and caring adults who accept responsibility for themselves.

Children/people who experience neglect or trauma seem to develope a variety of pathologies. Some of those lead to violent or otherwise harmful habits.

originally posted by: childoffather
Really?

Yeah, really. A mistranslation by Jerome and the combination of Alighieri's fiction created the myth of Lucifer/The Devil/Satan. It isn't real and is just superstitious nonsense.

Cthulhu on the other hand, he's where it's at.

OR, they are the ones that get caught is all maybe, hmmmm?

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
So what drives a person to do evil?

Their inability to control themesleves.
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originally posted by: childoffather
OR, they are the ones that get caught is all maybe, hmmmm?

Perpetrating despicable behavior and getting caught because of it are two wholly different things.

Scumbags hurt other people, and the even bigger scumbag is the one who blames it on a make believe creation.

I have a few Mason friends.
Some of them are involved in local politics and charitable fundraising.
One of them is a bad-ass carpenter.
I have yet to see anything less than normal or even honorable in their behavior.
The only reason I haven't got in on the club is that I would never join a club that would have me as a member.
I can figure out how to stack bricks on my own.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
So what drives a person to do evil?

Their inability to control themesleves.

So your saying that a seizure is evil?

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
So what drives a person to do evil?

Their inability to control themesleves.

So your saying that a seizure is evil?

I don’t think anybody but you would’ve come to that conclusion. This is what is referred to as a strawman. Learn to recognize it, so that you don’t use it.

No, they are the ones being protected and the only explanation for evil being deemed as good and visa versa.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: childoffather
OR, they are the ones that get caught is all maybe, hmmmm?

Perpetrating despicable behavior and getting caught because of it are two wholly different things.

Scumbags hurt other people, and the even bigger scumbag is the one who blames it on a make believe creation. [/

Yeah, the strawman is a part of this cartoon we live in.

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Violater1
So what drives a person to do evil?

Their inability to control themesleves.

So your saying that a seizure is evil?

I don’t think anybody but you would’ve come to that conclusion. This is what is referred to as a strawman. Learn to recognize it, so that you don’t use it

originally posted by: Violater1
So your saying that a seizure is evil?

No, only the criminally obtuse would come to that conclusion.

originally posted by: childoffather
No, they are the ones being protected and the only explanation for evil being deemed as good and visa versa.

Okay, if you say so. If you think that evil is good and vice versa the issues may not be with everyone else.