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originally posted by: rickymouse
How about if we just make it easier and way cheaper for good people who want to come to this country to do so. It would be cheaper to have the government hire more people to assist immigrants and identify if they are good for the country instead of lawyers charging them megabucks they can't afford to get residency and to become citizens.
We do not want the criminals from other countries here, criminals have to sneak in, they could never get residency, but why is it so expensive for good working people to get in? I think we should look at our Lawyers charges and make some changes, lot of good people can't get citizenship because they can't afford to get it.
That is the conspiracy, we bicker over things we do not need to bicker over, the good immigrants can be here, being rich does not mean they are good either. How did they get rich?
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Its all about keeping that border open so the drug flow. To do it they've hoodwinked the Democrat base into thinking the open border is about poor, poor immigrants, and that's how they get a double dip out of the thing by keeping everyone at each others throats on a false premise. As if the Ruling Elites care about helping anyone.
It's the perfect crime!!
Nice looking meme images ya got there.
originally posted by: muzzleflash
originally posted by: rickymouse
How about if we just make it easier and way cheaper for good people who want to come to this country to do so. It would be cheaper to have the government hire more people to assist immigrants and identify if they are good for the country instead of lawyers charging them megabucks they can't afford to get residency and to become citizens.
We do not want the criminals from other countries here, criminals have to sneak in, they could never get residency, but why is it so expensive for good working people to get in? I think we should look at our Lawyers charges and make some changes, lot of good people can't get citizenship because they can't afford to get it.
That is the conspiracy, we bicker over things we do not need to bicker over, the good immigrants can be here, being rich does not mean they are good either. How did they get rich?
I think you've missed the entire point of this.
I'm not saying we should or should not have immigrants. I'm not saying what kind we should have if we do allow some. This isn't about that.
This is about "why are we having an immigration crisis currently and what can possibly solve that problem?" + "holy crap the media has us trapped in a 2 solution debate where neither solution even addresses the root of the problem!".
If you want my personal opinion, I think that we should be helping everyone and living in harmony as a species. That I should be allowed to visit any nation anytime I desire to, and anyone else should be able to do this as well. And that we can live where ever we choose as well.
I am not fond of living in a world where we are all kept in pens like cattle and required to have all the right paperwork to cross a border, or that half of the borders I could cross are into nations so dangerous and destitute that I'd never really wanna go there anyways.
I admit that reality is very far away in the distant future, but it is clear to me that the only way we will have a "FREE WORLD" is by fixing our broken policies and genuinely helping our neighbors improve themselves.
originally posted by: Grambler
I sgtorngly disagree with the US needing to help impoverished countries. That is not the role of the US government, it exists to serve the people of the US.
Now sure, that means the government should not be nation building and such, which does cause problems.
But the idea that if we dont help out poor countries, then we deserve to be flooded with poor immigrants from those countries is absurd.
This is bad for multiple reasons.
1. The idea of helping these countries will be used as an excuse to exploit them, as we see over and pver like in Libya.
Better to leave them alone and allow private charity to help out.
2. The expense to help out every impoverished country in a meanigful way would be massive, and most of that money ends up going to corrupt leaders in those countries.
3. How much of your personal wealth are you willing to give up to help the poor around your home? You can live off of 20 thousand a year, so I assume you are giving all of your extra money to the poor that may become desperate crimianls around you.
Actually, I assume you dont do that. Neither should my or everyone elses tax money be doing that on a national scale.
I agree with you that some US policies do cause bad situations in other countries, but that is a small reason as to why we have an immigration problem.
The main reason is their is a lot of wealth in this country, and coming here means a higher standard of living. The US has no obligation to solve the worlds poverty, and attempts to do so will have the opposite effect and hurt the US.
originally posted by: carewemust
Both the media and politicians think that Americans are too stupid to think independently and need to be protected and directed.