US boy, 9, 'kills sister, 13, over controller'

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: midnightstar

If you can't tell the difference between a movie/game and reality you might be right.

There have been experiments involving children where a toy is either abused or loved in front of the child and when the child is left alone with the toy it does what it saw!
I watched a BBC documentary called 'The Brain: A Secret History' last night and it had many experiments in it - to see how to control peoples brains. Have you heard of MKUltra? Well that does not work - but they have found that people are influenced most by seeing what others do - humans copy.
www.bbc.co.uk... Here is the episode.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

So? Children learn through imitation. But that's not really the topic here, is it?

a reply to: burgerbuddy

Could have, we'll never know. But those are unheard of.

Fantasy minded kid, grabs gun, pew pew... hell ensues.

Fantasy minded kid stabs sister in the skull with a knife? somehow I think it was the ease of access and lack of parenting here that is to blame, not the intent.

We've all heard of kids getting hold of their parents guns and accidentally shooting a sibling. Hell, there was even that 12 yr old at a gun range when her dad let her shoot a fully automatic weapon that she was not capable of handling and ended up shooting the instructor in the head, killing him instantly.

So, how many cutlery classes have resulted in the accidental death of a chef by multiple stab wounds to the face while dicing an onion?

If the intent is being hell bent on everyone having guns, there needs to be a little but more effort putting into the heads of those owning them, how to be safe with them.

And this is detracting from the point of the thread. Little timmy shouldn't have had access to a loaded firearm. And that he still did, yet didn't consider the consequences of his actions, leads to the point of education.

the parents in this situation, are 100% responsible for this tragedy. Yet according to some, it's commonplace to have loaded guns just laying around with children nearby...

How many crazy pills was the kid on?

I bet it was one that has the side effect of violence thoughts

Just wanna point out for the older generation,we grew up on loony toons,with Wily Coyote buying acme bombs and anvils and Elmer Fudd blowing Daffy Duck's bill clean off his head.

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
How many crazy pills was the kid on?

I bet it was one that has the side effect of violence thoughts

I expect you are correct - aren't most kids on some pharmaceutical drug nowadays?

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
Just wanna point out for the older generation,we grew up on loony toons,with Wily Coyote buying acme bombs and anvils and Elmer Fudd blowing Daffy Duck's bill clean off his head.

Yes but they were not human were they!
And there are no anvils or Acme bombs lying around the house.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Yes but they were not human were they! And there are no anvils or Acme bombs lying around the house.

If you wanna argue...no problem.

No...for the people saying children act on what they see.

I have never ordered a bomb or dropped an anvil on someone's head?
Never shot anyone after playing a videogame either.

That is the point you missed.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I do recall a kid dropping a 35 pound rock on a car recently killing the driver.
That's close to an anvil.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I love how it's never about guns.
Someone said the kid would be alive if there was no gun there and of course the we don't know that crowd comes in.

That same crowd loves to claim that if law abiding people had guns at all these terrible shootings then they wouldn't have happened.

It’s my 2nd amendment right to leave any and every gun I own out on the kitchen table within reach of my children.

originally posted by: DrumsRfun
No...for the people saying children act on what they see.

Not just children - have you seen any advertising?
There has been much study in how to control brains.

a reply to: badw0lf

How does a 9-year-old get so messed up that he thinks the best way to handle a problem with his sister is to go get a gun and shoot her?

It isn't like he just lashed out because the gun was sitting right there in front of him on the coffee table. He had to go and get it. There was time for him to think about what he was doing.

a reply to: TinySickTears

These discussions go two ways.

For one side, it's always *only* about the guns. No one wants to see that this kid was terribly messed up. You have to be to think that the best way to deal with your frustration and anger at your sister is to go and get a gun. There was time for him to think about what he was doing. It's not like the gun was sitting right there on the coffee table for him to lash out with.

For the other side, we want to know how the kid got screwed up and why no one wants to ask that hard question because it implies that there are some things very, very deeply wrong about our society. And those things are going to be much harder to fix than just trying to take away the tools we have at our disposal.

Curious what video game he wanted to play. For all we know it could have been Animal Crossing for the GameCube.
If we want to blame video games we should at least know which game to blame.

originally posted by: Deluxe
Curious what video game he wanted to play. For all we know it could have been Animal Crossing for the GameCube.
If we want to blame video games we should at least know which game to blame.

I'd look at anything that trains instant gratification.

Who am I kidding? They *all* do that.

a reply to: Deluxe

Good point.
Perhaps he did not even know what a gun did? Or even which end to point. Somehow he knew what to do with it - maybe he had been shown by someone how to aim and shot?

originally posted by: JameSimon

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
How ironic (tragic, but still ironic)...

9 year old gets pissed because his 13 year old sister won't let him play the latest version of Murder Slaughter Bloodbath Death Gore Porn - ver. 37.3...so he grabs a real gun and blows her brains out for real!

Nah, couldn't have been violent video games that inspired this kid to pick up a gun (which is absolutely incapable of firing by itself, btw) and murder someone, now could it??? Nawwwwww!

THEN...BBC picks it up and runs with the story. Nary a mention of the whole violent video game piece.

Guns are NOT the problem, the problem IS the person who pulls the trigger!

How long is it going to take for people to get this?????????

OMG, I played GTA as a kid, should I be concerned that I may become a killer and shoot one of my sisters?

Oh wait, guns are not easy to get in my country.

Just be careful you don't do one of Sub-Zero's special fatality moves. After all, we did play the game...

Hint, hint: it's never the game. It's the stupid kid and parent combination with lack of care for their household firearm.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Itisnowagain

So? Children learn through imitation. But that's not really the topic here, is it?

Which is exactly why firearm safety training is so important. And there are courses specifically designed for kids, even very young kids, to teach them what to do if they come across a gun.

In this case, it is the irresponsible acts of the parents. They should be charged. Leaving a gun anywhere where a 9 year old can get it is criminal. It's no different than leaving him in your running car alone and he moves the shifter and runs somebody over. Irresponsible parents do the damage.

a reply to: face23785

Not just irresponsible for leaving the gun, but irresponsible in the sense that they have a 9-year-old who has that explosive of a temper that will stay explosive long enough to let him murder his sister over a game controller of all things. That speaks to lack of discipline.