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originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
originally posted by: SailorJerry
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
This is horrible advice and a perfect example of why its not healthy for people with this disorder to seek help from other schizophrenics online.
You may think youre helping but giving this sort of advice could literally lead to someone building up to an episode that gets themselves or someone else hurt or killed
originally posted by: SailorJerry
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
This is horrible advice and a perfect example of why its not healthy for people with this disorder to seek help from other schizophrenics online.
You may think youre helping but giving this sort of advice could literally lead to someone building up to an episode that gets themselves or someone else hurt or killed
originally posted by: anotherside
Its all about oxygen in the brain. I drank kangen water and voices stopped almost completely for a while. If you guage your voices volume and reaction using shungite or other blocking you may find its not exactly a mental disorder.
originally posted by: abe froman
Uhhh...
voices in your head are EXACTLY a mental disorder.
Take your meds.
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: freedom7
Can you tell it is a hallucination while you see it? What kind of delusion of grandeur? Are you aware that it is happening or is your story what's going on something else?
Definitely change the doctor and if you got ongoing symptoms find a Way to treat it with which you feel comfortable. There are also stories of people who found a combination of dealing with stress and medication that really helps them and they're feeling better for long times.
But of course your concerns should always be taken seriously, find someone who you feel comfortable with and be honest.
originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: freedom7
Fellow Schizoaffective here.
Med compliant.
I tried going at it without medication for 15 years.
Finally I had enough of the paranoia and attendant psychosis and decided to give medications s a serious chance. My brain and worldview changed dramatically. My days are a constant reminder and practice of holistic therapy and mental reprogramming. It's taken twenty years but I'm able to go outside and not feel paranoid of lost in a negative delusional mindset. It took an additional 4 years to get the right medication cocktail.
I've tried maintaining employment but I always crack within a week or so, and I grew tired of constant Inpatient.
These days I just take it slow.
Find your groove and go with it.
Don't force yourself into anything uncomfortable for the sake of "being normal".
If you need an alternate path to stay mentally healthy, follow it.
originally posted by: anotherside
originally posted by: SailorJerry
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
This is horrible advice and a perfect example of why its not healthy for people with this disorder to seek help from other schizophrenics online.
You may think youre helping but giving this sort of advice could literally lead to someone building up to an episode that gets themselves or someone else hurt or killed
If your like me and know where they come from. You know not react but intelligently. I still take a med. But it really activated more than stops them.
Everyone with "schizophrenia" (an industries deceptionn) ive talked to say meds dont fully work.
In fact my experience says treating it as technology stops the crazy voices and gets the algrythms going in a defensive angry reactive state. I love abusing abusers.
originally posted by: CreationBro
originally posted by: SailorJerry
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
This is horrible advice and a perfect example of why its not healthy for people with this disorder to seek help from other schizophrenics online.
You may think youre helping but giving this sort of advice could literally lead to someone building up to an episode that gets themselves or someone else hurt or killed
Sometimes asking some individuals with the condition isnt good and yes, can be harmful.
Not all the time.
To suggest so would imply that all people with the condition are essentially doing nothing, but harm and have no truth and/or validity behind their words and beliefs...nor restraint and discpline in sharing these things, along with providing sound, cautionary advice when necessary.
It also blatantly ignores the fact that those without the condition or undiagnosed, may also provide bad responses that can cause what youve suggested...
OP, to answer your question, yes. It can be done.
Dont smoke pot. At all. Ever. In fact, id say only stick to carefully moderated drinking and if you use nicotine, moderated nic usage....but please be advised of the well documented health risks.
It will take years of rebuilding and rewiring your thought processes. Rebuild trust. Believe in good out there. Believe in your ability to be renewed.
Excercise uncertainty, especially about negative, paranoid things. Use laughter and light heartedness to ease yourself.
Find a routine of destressing and relaxing. Easing your mind and not stressing out is key here.
If ever going off medz, you need to keep your psychiatrist updated regularly. You also need to go off of them slowly....and at the right time. Otherwisr you may lose progress in your healing.
Oh, and dont listen to the jerks that call you a crazy person, that either shun you or passively bully you. You might be misinterpreting them, or theyre likely sociopaths with a much more destructive mental disorder (total lack of remorse for harming others in any way).
Just focus on getting better. Ignore the negative crap, regardless of it being "real" or not.
A lot of people have hope.
I dont claim anything as absolute. All i know is what ive been through, and what ive felt.
Anyone that tries to deny that and take that away? They might as well be marinating themself with blood in the middle of the ocean. And yes, I mean that very sincerely.
Good luck to you OP and all the rest of you. You are cared for in ways you dont know, by those you may not expect.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a reply to: freedom7
if you have an extreme episode or in mental distress, tell your family and friends not to call the police for help, they'll thank you and you'll thank them when you get through this.
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
We are all jumping realities every second. If the jump is chaotic then that is when the mental attack occurs.
Follow your spiritual groove.
originally posted by: Rapha
a reply to: freedom7
Stay off the drugs and follow your instincts.
If you hear voices then just say 'Shut up stupid demon'. Then chuckle at the point where the voice came from.
We are all jumping realities every second. If the jump is chaotic then that is when the mental attack occurs.
Follow your spiritual groove.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: SailorJerry
It's a hard road.
One of the biggest issues imo is how some people can't help mocking schizophrenic episodes. Someone passes through during a cycle and people are practically queuing up to post zingers and play to the crowd. Schizophrenia is a cross to bear and so is the lack of empathy displayed by those who screw around with them.
The other side of the coin, as you pointed out, is when schizophrenics are encouraged by some to ditch medication and go it alone.
Respect to those who give reasonable advice no matter which particular cross they carry in life.
originally posted by: Kandinsky
a reply to: SailorJerry
It's a hard road.
One of the biggest issues imo is how some people can't help mocking schizophrenic episodes. Someone passes through during a cycle and people are practically queuing up to post zingers and play to the crowd. Schizophrenia is a cross to bear and so is the lack of empathy displayed by those who screw around with them.
The other side of the coin, as you pointed out, is when schizophrenics are encouraged by some to ditch medication and go it alone.
Respect to those who give reasonable advice no matter which particular cross they carry in life.
originally posted by: anotherside
a reply to: freedom7
I got my voices to admit they are a brainwashing system.
originally posted by: anotherside
a reply to: freedom7
I got my voices to admit they are a brainwashing system.
originally posted by: freedom7
My question is does anyone know if you can function in society and live a decent quality of life while treating this disorder holistically and not with meds ?