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The United States and Uzbekistan have quietly negotiated and are expected to sign a bilateral agreement today to provide American aid in dismantling and decontaminating one of the former Soviet Union's largest chemical weapons testing facilities, according to Defense Department and Uzbek officials. Earlier this year, the Pentagon informed Congress that it intends to spend up to $6 million under its Cooperative Threat Reduction program to demilitarize the so-called Chemical Research Institute, in Nukus, Uzbekistan. Soviet defectors and American officials say the Nukus plant was the major research and testing site for a new class of secret, highly lethal chemical weapons called ''Novichok,''
Alarmed by the health and environmental impact of the Soviets' use of Uzbekistan for the production and large-scale testing of illegal chemical and germ weapons, President Islam A. Karimov renounced weapons of mass destruction. Since then, his Government has worked closely with American defense officials, granting them access to sites whose counterparts in Russia are still off limits....
...Vil S. Mirzayanov, who worked for more than 25 years in the Soviet chemical weapons program, has told them and later said publicly that the plant was built to produce batches, for testing, of Novichok binary weapons designed to escape detection by international inspectors.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Then you also have to ask yourself, what does the US government have to gain from assassinating a former Russian double agent.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Then you also have to ask yourself, what does the US government have to gain from assassinating a former Russian double agent.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
As I asked in another thread when this was brought up, what indication is there that any product or research data was left? You don't think Russia cleared the place out before they left? Even if there was any significant amount of Novichok left in the facility eight years sounds like a long time for it to sit around in a less than ideal environment without breaking down.
Then you also have to ask yourself, what does the US government have to gain from assassinating a former Russian double agent.
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Then you also have to ask yourself, what does the US government have to gain from assassinating a former Russian double agent.
Maybe its pay back, for the Russians meddling with the US election process... CIA style.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: The GUT
OK, you swayed me. Clearly this was the work of some rogue operative in the US government that just so happened to work at the theoretical facility that produces Novichok. He then sneaked the weapon out of the facility, bypassing all the safeguards in place that stop people from doing just that, flew to England, found a random ex-Russian spy and poisoned him. All so the already strained relationship between the UK and Russia can be strained.
Dr Mirzayanov said that novichok, which means "newcomer", can be made from two separate compounds similar to chemicals used in agriculture, and which crucially are not on the chemical weapons convention banned list.
In that way, he said, novichok could be transported to the site of an attack in its constituent parts without detection, and once assembled the tiny micro particles could easily be deployed using an aerosol, spray, liquid or wipe.
He thinks it is likely that the attack was carried out using a spray, which maximises the chances of a victim getting the nerve agent on their skin and also inhaling it.
Dr Mirzayanov described the secret development of the powerful nerve agent as "a plot against the world" designed to maintain chemical weapons capability without having to declare it to the international community.
Link.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
And thats the problem....
Russia right now seem to be the only ones who make any sense.
didn't actually say that it wasn't Russia.
I was pointing out that it is misinformation (at best) to say that it HAD to be Russia, on the basis that it was originally made in Russia,
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
I swear to God if my government had any role in this, they are done.
Armed revolution and gallows.