The CIA Democrats

a reply to: Outlier13
I also found the article a very good read. How I have never thought about looking into this very idea before idk. But now thanks to that I have some reading to do. Also those videos posted on this page also look very good.

a reply to: Outlier13

The democratic party is made up of far left socialists. Why do you think they are bringing this news to people's attention?

Dude, your reply to my question was to ask me the same question. If I knew, i woundn't have asked.
Why would the people who are quietly filling their ranks with ex intelligent agents, call that very action out.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Outlier13

Got any other links besides that socialist BS.??

What does that even mean?

The ICFI (which owns this site) has been around since 1953. You only read info from your echo chambers apparently.

CIA types and military are usually conservative in their politics. What would be the impetus for joining the Dembs. And what would be the purpose.

Who owns them... especially if they are financed by the Clinton machine. Also, everyone has a closet full of subjective skeletons they don’t want out. I wouldn’t put it past the Clinton machine to force people to do their bidding.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Outlier13

The democratic party is made up of far left socialists. Why do you think they are bringing this news to people's attention?

Dude, your reply to my question was to ask me the same question. If I knew, i woundn't have asked.
Why would the people who are quietly filling their ranks with ex intelligent agents, call that very action out.

You are bringing up a good point. I believe the left has factions within it as well as the right. But remember there is 1 underlining progressive party that crosses the aisle back and forth that competes for the control of each party. The establishment... people like Lindsay graham, Clinton, McConell, Pelosi, etc...

Also, maybe the site is a follower of Bernie Sanders and is upset/ butt hurt about being pushed out of the nomination. .........that’s got to be your answer....

a reply to: Outlier13

Record number of women are running too.
It's the Anti trump effect. Lol

You guys keep me laughing.

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Interesting. So the democrats hope to enhance their ranks with career establishment warriors.
Not surprising that both parties have made this a practice over the years.

What might be surprising to some here is that the link is not a conservative website. it is a Socialist website.

So if the democratic party is made up of far left socialists, why is it that far left socialists are bringing this news to our attention?

Maybe some of those socialists were Bernie Sanders supporters that feel they were ripped off by the establishment Democratic Party.
Maybe they don't feel like being cheated again?

originally posted by: GraffikPleasure

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Outlier13

Got any other links besides that socialist BS.??

What does that even mean?

The ICFI (which owns this site) has been around since 1953. You only read info from your echo chambers apparently.

CIA types and military are usually conservative in their politics. What would be the impetus for joining the Dembs. And what would be the purpose.

Who owns them... especially if they are financed by the Clinton machine. Also, everyone has a closet full of subjective skeletons they don’t want out. I wouldn’t put it past the Clinton machine to force people to do their bidding.

What in the name of God is a Subjective skeleton?

originally posted by: GraffikPleasure

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: Outlier13

The democratic party is made up of far left socialists. Why do you think they are bringing this news to people's attention?

Dude, your reply to my question was to ask me the same question. If I knew, i woundn't have asked.
Why would the people who are quietly filling their ranks with ex intelligent agents, call that very action out.

You are bringing up a good point. I believe the left has factions within it as well as the right. But remember there is 1 underlining progressive party that crosses the aisle back and forth that competes for the control of each party. The establishment... people like Lindsay graham, Clinton, McConell, Pelosi, etc...

Also, maybe the site is a follower of Bernie Sanders and is upset/ butt hurt about being pushed out of the nomination. .........that’s got to be your answer....

Yes, I think that both political parties have various factions. I, however, base my thoughts on the old left/ right scale.
That old scale places the core divide between those on the left and those on the right as the line drawn between those who promote a capitalist system of economics and and those who promote a socialist form of economics.

That scale sees anti-capitalism as the left and pro capitalism as the right. Based on that scale, there are factions within the Democrat Party, however most of those Democrats favor some form of regulated capitalism.

Socialism is being in favor of the workers being in control of the means of production. That is, workers in a factory or a farm of whatever would own the company equally and all who work there would reap the benefits of their work.

Capitalism is in favor of one person, or one family or a group of shareholders who have little to do with the production of the product owning the business and reaping the profits of that business while paying those who work for the business as little as possible so that the profit for the owners is as high as possible.

By that scale, most Democrats, most liberals, are not socialists but capitalists. The liberal people you list above are not socialists because they personally profit from the capitalist system. Clintons, Pelosi's etc, are considered leftists but in reality, they are not. They all profit from defending the capitalist system. They all take donations from banking and Wall Street interests, so that they help to defend that system of capitalism from the real socialists.

Based on that scale, all who seek to maintain the capitalist system, be they Democrat or Republican cannot be ''far left'' as to be far left is to seek to weaken the economic power of the oligarchs who are the big time owners of the capitalist system, bankers, stock brokers, billionaires, etc. So in this manner of thinking, Clintons and all her cronies are on the same side as all the Republicans like Graham and McConnel and Ryan. None of them are socialist, but rather capitalists of varying degree.

Along with that understanding of the range from far left(Marxist) to far right (alt-right)
I look at the mainstream media. What I see is that thes huge corporations are not owned by the workers, that is the journalists and on air pundits etc, but rather are owned by millionaires who have in most cases profited from these companies that were owned by their founding ancestors or bought out by even bigger conglomerates that are also owned by those few, the oligarchs' who own the means of reporting.

So when i see a socialist website, like the one in the OP, pointing out the skullduggery of the capitalist defending democratic party, what I see is those from the '' real '' left, making public the underhanded actions of the pro-capitalist liberal elite.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: GraffikPleasure

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Outlier13

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Outlier13

Got any other links besides that socialist BS.??

What does that even mean?

The ICFI (which owns this site) has been around since 1953. You only read info from your echo chambers apparently.

CIA types and military are usually conservative in their politics. What would be the impetus for joining the Dembs. And what would be the purpose.

Who owns them... especially if they are financed by the Clinton machine. Also, everyone has a closet full of subjective skeletons they don’t want out. I wouldn’t put it past the Clinton machine to force people to do their bidding.

What in the name of God is a Subjective skeleton?

It's what is important to you that you don't want others knowing. It could be small or big...just anything. Like being gay and not wanting others to know.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Interesting. So the democrats hope to enhance their ranks with career establishment warriors.
Not surprising that both parties have made this a practice over the years.

What might be surprising to some here is that the link is not a conservative website. it is a Socialist website.

So if the democratic party is made up of far left socialists, why is it that far left socialists are bringing this news to our attention?

Maybe some of those socialists were Bernie Sanders supporters that feel they were ripped off by the establishment Democratic Party.
Maybe they don't feel like being cheated again?

That makes sense to me Guy. From my point of view, ''real'' socialists would only support people like Clinton and Pelosi due to them and their likes being only slightly better than conservatives. The Establishment Democratic Party is part of the Two Party System which seeks above all else to promote and sustain the capitalist system of economics. Within that framework, all the cultural and societal liberalism of today's liberals is only that, cultural and socially liberalism which seeks to encourage new forms of culturalization within the capitalist system. That is not socialism.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

It was rhetorical.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

I would argue that those in or were in government that support or are involved in corporations are more fascist these days than capitalist. The Corporate Lobby is hardly capitalist. Could big pharma be considering anything but a state sponsored entity when the government forbids real competition in the form of regulations.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Basing your thoughts on the old left scale is where you go wrong IMO.. a game is being played with us and we are playing without knowing.

Respectfully, I think you wasted a lot of time there typing that. I’m not sure how you read my post, but most of what you said I already know... or never said.

Anyways, neither party are for you or me.

You people are deluded. Trump and his people are so horrible (unqualified criminals and traitors) that people are being scared into taking action. It has nothing to do with Hillary or the Democratic party or anything else except being scared for the future of America. That's why more democrats are running than every before.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Outlier13

Got any other links besides that socialist BS.??

I got one, but sadly it's just another link to the socialist site. But you can read it on Gateway pundit without having to support the socialist site.
gate way pundit link

a reply to: AntiDoppleganger

I would argue that those in or were in government that support or are involved in corporations are more fascist these days than capitalist. The Corporate Lobby is hardly capitalist. Could big pharma be considering anything but a state sponsored entity when the government forbids real competition in the form of regulations.

I agree that corporatists, those in corporations and those who support corporate power from within our government will tend to fascism in support of their agendas.

And I agree that big pharma is a state sponsored ''aided'' corporate enterprise. The wiggle room for that is that those regulations are in place to assure the best pharma coverage for citizens. That said, those citizens have been turned into consumers of pharma rather than citizens in need of protection from unscrupulous pharma corps.

So while I agree that big pharma is supported by government subsidy and hence in part liable for the drug culture of our society, I still hold that behind even that lays the drive for un-adulterated profit that is the motor of the corporations that drive the whole scam.

a reply to: GraffikPleasure

Oh, yes, I am completely in agreement that a game is being played on us. As to neither party being there for you or me, that should lay at the base of all of our thinking going forward.

All to often, I find that when I type socialist, those who read it take that term to mean ''big government'' and ''authoritarian control from the top down'' and hence make the assumption that I and other who go easy on the socialist concept are toadies for the oligarch elites. Yet, in the context in which I grew up a socialist is completely the opposite.

So, your note that maybe I should not base my thoughts on that old scale may be right. Actually, as I was typing it I had the same thought but had to get it all out to see if it still made sense to me, which it does, but now may be completely moot.

From my perspective, Marxism, Communism and Socialism are dead potentialities. Capitalism has won the day, making any hope of switching to anything other is fruitless. The term liberal now refers to any capitalist government or corporation that seeks to make changes in society so that will profit that particular corporate product.

The battle as I see it now is not between socialism and capitalism, but rather capitalist enterprises themselves. Corporate wars. And as we agreed earlier, both parties are under the control of those corporations hence supporting either one is just like choosing coke or pepsi.

a reply to: Outlier13

This needs to be stopped!
I think the CIA has been running the WH since Bush Sr, and Trump winning has thrown the shadow plans into limbo.
They are desperate to regain control this midterm, to regain control.

This is serious stuff not just for the future of the USA, but the rest of the world.

I wrote on old post about my thoughts on the CIA infiltrating the WH.... Post on CIA Taking WH, after Putin took Kremlin


Trump and Q's team need to do their thing and clean up the swamp. MSM needs to be called out on their anti-trump BS.
US ATS members who follow Q .... get posting and commenting on all MSM to highlight this subversion. Q knows you have the numbers to do something good to help (I'm not in US).

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Though Capitalism doesn't have to be so hardcore dog-eat-dog.

Toning it down with basic ethics and a degree of compassion wouldn't be bad.

Seems to me that US patriotism is like ...

Love thy Country, To hell with my Countrymen.